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Re: New '16 shifter - fit in a '14?

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You guys who are vocal defenders of the '14-'15 shifter do you let other people drive your vehicle? If and when you do, do you give them any special instruction on it?
It took my roommate about 5 minutes to learn how to use the shifter on my '15. He kept skipping gears and landing in P or D. After he got the hang of it, no more problems.

My mother flat out refuses to drive it because she can't get the gear changes right at all. She doesn't understand why it "won't stay in D" like a traditional shifter.

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Old 02-08-2016, 03:47 PM
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Re: New '16 shifter - fit in a '14?

I'm used to the shifter, but still occasionally find myself hitting the gas, and revving the engine with no power to the wheels. Usually, this happens when I'm parallel parking, and in a hurry. My wife refuses to even drive my JGC, and she loves her Compass with the CVT tranny.
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Re: New '16 shifter - fit in a '14?

Does anybody trust them to valet parking?
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Does anybody trust them to valet parking?
I don't trust any of my vehicles to valet parking. That's why I won't let them near my cars.
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Re: New '16 shifter - fit in a '14?

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I don't trust any of my vehicles to valet parking. That's why I won't let them near my cars.
Good luck with that in Atlanta. I'd have to stay home.
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Re: New '16 shifter - fit in a '14?

I think it's possible there will be a recall or improvement of some sort to this shifter. its under investigation by the NTSA right now
Feds find Chrysler gear shifts confuse drivers, cause crashes

I know some on this forum feel this is all user error but I can say this, if you've been driving for 30 years and are used to mechanical shifters where you can "feel" it go into gear and don't have to look down to confirm you are in park when you push forward, this electronic shifter is an issue. I think if it was your first day driving a car, and this electronic shifter was your only point of reference you'd have no issues. Unlearning a behavior (shifting without looking) is hard to undo, and likely the cause of many of the accidents. I do a visual confirm every time I put my Jeep in park because it hasn't been in park enough times doing it without looking that it just isn't safe to not visually confirm. Again, learning a new behavior. That said nearly every new car has an electronic shifter and not nearly as many issues (at least that I've seen) so clearly there needs to be some improvement here.

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Apparently I'm one of the many who cannot STAND the bouncy-backy shifter in the '14. I want something more precise (tired of going past a gear I want, or not far enough because some electrical contact doesn't think I did it right). I see the '16 has a redesigned shifter that actually MOVES and actually STAYS in a different position for each gear.

Anybody know if the shifter will retrofit / plug in to a 2014? Not looking to change anything (D/S mode, paddles, etc) besides that one handle and its tactile operation.
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Good luck with that in Atlanta. I'd have to stay home.
I don't stay home. I just tell them to let me know where to park it.
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Re: New '16 shifter - fit in a '14?

This is how the 'shifter' looks like on my Lincoln.



It's as easy as it gets but some car reviewers are still having an issue with it...
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Re: New '16 shifter - fit in a '14?

In defence of the '14 and '15 shifters, I find it looks less cluttered, more clean and more spacious on the gear console than the others. But I can see why others prefer the generic straight line set up. There is room for less errors in the previous one- a reason why Jeep made the switch. Now if this was a manual, it would be most interesting. Anyone try to switch to a manual set-up?
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Re: New '16 shifter - fit in a '14?

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This is how the 'shifter' looks like on my Lincoln.



It's as easy as it gets but some car reviewers are still having an issue with it...
whoa....

That's very intriguing right there. Never seen one of those before.

Personally i think thy should incorporate the shifter into the paddle shifters. tap and hold the left paddle while in park and engage into R. Simple as that.
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whoa....



That's very intriguing right there. Never seen one of those before.



Personally i think thy should incorporate the shifter into the paddle shifters. tap and hold the left paddle while in park and engage into R. Simple as that.

That sounds like a horrible idea. They should get rid of the paddle shifters all together. They have to be one of the worst automotive inventions ever.


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They should get rid of the paddle shifters all together. They have to be one of the worst automotive inventions ever.
If you are proposing a different UI besides "paddles" for the same manual gear selection capability, I'd entertain that.

Otherwise, absolutely not. Manual gear selection on an automatic transmission is incredibly useful for locking the vehicle into a chosen gear at speed. Tired of ACC giving you whiplash when you change lanes? Lock it in 8th with the paddle shifters. You can also use it to start rolling in 2nd gear rather than 1st, which is sometimes useful too. Or deliberately downshifting to lower your EGT while towing.

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I do a visual confirm every time I put my Jeep in park because it hasn't been in park enough times doing it without looking that it just isn't safe to not visually confirm. Again, learning a new behavior.
I agree visual confirmation is required with this shifter. I've been saved more than once due to the fact that I conscientiously use the parking brake... I push the shifter forward and once again it's decided to hang up in N instead of P (at least I've already set the parking brake, so it doesn't roll). Even worse is when the shifter "fights back" and requires well over one second of pushing in order to shift into P.

Change for the sake of change isn't a virtue. Traditional shifters offer tactile feedback / muscle memory that subconsciously confirms gear selection. That's been lost with this shifter paradigm. What's the commensurate gain we've received to compensate for this loss? I don't perceive any.
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