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Re: New GC 13 oil change?

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Thats an urban legend and false. With todays oil and engines, exposing the Jeep to more often oil changes exposes it to more risk of damage, so changing oil early not only costs you, it is not insurance... its risky behavior
How does more frequent oil changes expose the engine to more risk of damage? Why doesn't the manual warn us of this ?
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Re: New GC 13 oil change?

Vehicles fall off of oil change racks or get scraped, techs forget to tighten the drain plug (which falls out 1000 miles down the road) or don't remove the oil filter gasket left over from the previous filter ( which will eventually blow out and drain the engine of oil). Some initially forget to refill the oil and may not notice the low oil pressure indicator for awhile. One of these occurrences can seriously damage the vehicle. If the tech does not fill the filter, many engines will run on no oil pressure for awhile when first started.

No warning in the manual because the manual writer assumes you are having the oil changed at the dealer where all the minimum wage oil jockeys are highly competent and never make mistakes.

Just saying that folks may want to look at the bigger picture instead of a narrow box when making claims of cheap insurance.

Fully synthetic oils, even under heavy or low mileage use, are not going to break down within a WK2 engine in just 8000 miles regardless or the fact .

Now watch the speedy oil change marketing mafia step in here with their corn starched laced oil photos or that the idiots here never check their oil level.
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Re: New GC 13 oil change?

Thats like saying you shouldn't go to the doctor for regular checkups because you might get MRSA. Sure, cars get damaged when they are in for service, oil changes get botched and cause problems, but the extent of that is pretty rare. People have to find a mechanic they trust to work on their cars.

I've never had a vehicle damaged when having the oil changed in my entire life, plus who's to say the poster isn't changing their own oil?

The statement that changing oil more frequently is "risky behavior" is preposterous. To say its waste of money is valid IMHO, but you're not hurting anything by sticking to 5k drains or 3k drains if that makes you feel better.

And the Jeep does not require synthetic oil. 98% of owners don't run synthetic oil.
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This debate plays itself out on every forum in countless threads...

But I do my own oil changes and I completed the first at 3800 mi. My second one I waited for just over 7000 additional miles before I bought the supplies and did the oil change on a convenient day.

There really isn't any reason to go away from the owners manual and as long as you reset the oil life monitor/ oil change message the WK2 will tell you based on usage when it is needed. If you fall under the heavy schedule it'll tell you to get an oil change at around 4000 miles. After 7000 miles either make an appointment to get it changed or go out and get oil and a filter, I'd recommend sticking with a mopar filter as they are only $6-7 at a local dealer.

Best of luck with your new Jeep.
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Re: New GC 13 oil change?

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Vehicles fall off of oil change racks or get scraped, techs forget to tighten the drain plug (which falls out 1000 miles down the road) or don't remove the oil filter gasket left over from the previous filter ( which will eventually blow out and drain the engine of oil). Some initially forget to refill the oil and may not notice the low oil pressure indicator for awhile. One of these occurrences can seriously damage the vehicle. If the tech does not fill the filter, many engines will run on no oil pressure for awhile when first started.

No warning in the manual because the manual writer assumes you are having the oil changed at the dealer where all the minimum wage oil jockeys are highly competent and never make mistakes.

Just saying that folks may want to look at the bigger picture instead of a narrow box when making claims of cheap insurance.

Fully synthetic oils, even under heavy or low mileage use, are not going to break down within a WK2 engine in just 8000 miles regardless or the fact .

Now watch the speedy oil change marketing mafia step in here with their corn starched laced oil photos or that the idiots here never check their oil level.
Come on Cold Case. How many cars fall off the rack when getting the oil changed? The dealer I go to has ASE certified mechanics, not oil jockeys. The way you presented your assertion, I read it to imply that frequent oil changes are bad for the motor. Thats why I asked. I guess you could say if I have an accident on the way to get my oil changed then that could be prevented by not getting my oil changed.
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Re: New GC 13 oil change?

To be fair, the ASE mechanics don't do oil changes at the dealer. They have "oil techs" that have training similar to what you find at Jiffy Lube, etc to change oil. Having an ASE tech change your oil is kind of like having a brain surgeon put in an IV line.
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To be fair, the ASE mechanics don't do oil changes at the dealer. They have "oil techs" that have training similar to what you find at Jiffy Lube, etc to change oil. Having an ASE tech change your oil is kind of like having a brain surgeon put in an IV line.
Actually at the Ford dealer in never got any training at all, I didn't at Chevy either. By the time I was at Ford is was an ASE master but that is besides the point.
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Re: New GC 13 oil change?

I bet thats training similar to what you find at Jiffy Lube...nothing at all LOL

Thats why I find it funny when people pooh pooh quick lube places and take their cars to the dealers.
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To be fair, the ASE mechanics don't do oil changes at the dealer. They have "oil techs" that have training similar to what you find at Jiffy Lube, etc to change oil. Having an ASE tech change your oil is kind of like having a brain surgeon put in an IV line.
My son is an ASE mechanic for Toyota and he does oil changes. They work in teams of 3 guys. Most jobs get more than just an oil change. The techs also try to upsell the job when they see something that needs addressed. He does complain that it only pays .3 hours though.
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Re: New GC 13 oil change?

I'm sure it depends on the dealer
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My son is an ASE mechanic for Toyota and he does oil changes. They work in teams of 3 guys. Most jobs get more than just an oil change. The techs also try to upsell the job when they see something that needs addressed. He does complain that it only pays .3 hours though.
Ford and gm both pay .3 for a oil change and .5 for an oil change with a tire rotation, so at least he isn't losing out there.
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