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Re: New technique makes it easy to break in and steal GC

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I just keep my insurance premium paid.


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Exactly. I am not going to obsess over this. If someone steals it...it will just turn into a new one.

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Re: New technique makes it easy to break in and steal GC

Getting in is one thing but starting may be another.

With the FOB in my pocket, my foot on the brake, and pushing the start button does not always start my 2011 GC. I have to be fully inside the car for the GC to start or I get the "Key is not present" on the display.
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Old 10-12-2014, 09:23 PM
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Re: New technique makes it easy to break in and steal GC

I'm not so sure. If this thing is a repeater, then it replicates the fob. Once inside the vehicle, wouldn't it mimic the fob's presence inside the vehicle?
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Re: New technique makes it easy to break in and steal GC

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Getting in is one thing but starting may be another.

With the FOB in my pocket, my foot on the brake, and pushing the start button does not always start my 2011 GC. I have to be fully inside the car for the GC to start or I get the "Key is not present" on the display.
Greetings,

That is the modular acting up again. I go thru this all the time with my 2011. They changed the FOB and modular with in the first year.

When I have the problem, usually when I bring it in for service, the tech reprograms for me.

Best for now.
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Re: New technique makes it easy to break in and steal GC

This honestly sounds like a "Tonight at 11 - See the new controversial way thieves are going to still your car and how this has caused cancer in 3 small children.
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Re: New technique makes it easy to break in and steal GC

I have seen the news report in my area(long island) that owners of many cars with the push button start are leaving the fob in the vehicle, and the doors unlocked in their driveway. maybe because of multiple drivers, or just lazy, so all the thief has to do is get in start it up and go. I also saw that if the insurance co. can prove that was the case, they will refuse to pay. Mine is locked at all times, even if I go in the house for 5 minutes!
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Re: New technique makes it easy to break in and steal GC

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I have seen the news report in my area(long island) that owners of many cars with the push button start are leaving the fob in the vehicle, and the doors unlocked in their driveway. maybe because of multiple drivers, or just lazy, so all the thief has to do is get in start it up and go. I also saw that if the insurance co. can prove that was the case, they will refuse to pay. Mine is locked at all times, even if I go in the house for 5 minutes!
That's going to depend on where you live and how shitty your insurance policy is.
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Re: New technique makes it easy to break in and steal GC

I think it could depend on what kind of policy you have. Some commercial auto policies might have a stipulation regarding contributory negligence. Not sure if leaving the key in the car is considered contributory, although it sounds like it is. I think that little tidbit is used mostly for determining fault in the event of an accident.

But if it's insured as a personal use vehicle it could be different. State insurance laws probably also play a role in all of this.
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Re: New technique makes it easy to break in and steal GC

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You can turn off the passive entry in the settings. Sounds like we need to put or keys in metal boxes until we are ready to go somewhere.

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I wonder how the thief drives away without the key fob in the vehicle after getting in?

The OP is in NYC, where Smith & Wesson or Glock security systems probably wouldn't fly, and there's probably some law against housing your rabid pit bull in the cargo area.
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I wonder how the thief drives away without the key fob in the vehicle after getting in?
It keeps running until it is shutoff.

Then it doesn't matter because it's stripped.
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I think it could depend on what kind of policy you have. Some commercial auto policies might have a stipulation regarding contributory negligence. Not sure if leaving the key in the car is considered contributory, although it sounds like it is. I think that little tidbit is used mostly for determining fault in the event of an accident.

But if it's insured as a personal use vehicle it could be different. State insurance laws probably also play a role in all of this.
"Contributory negligence" theory would have to include some sort of negligence on the part of the Jeep owner...which is subject to a reasonable person standard. The Jeep owner is not negligent at all in my opinion. With respect to Jeep or other automakers being negligent...well probably not as it takes a lot of sophistication to pull this thievery off.....which of course they could always just use a tow truck to steal your Jeep, break a window and "hot wire" (if that is still possible...dunno), etc. etc. etc. There doesn't appear to be any negligence at all from any party either directly or contributorily.
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Re: New technique makes it easy to break in and steal GC

Yeah, doubtful that an insurance company could use the contributory excuse to avoid paying a claim considering the circumstances.

I think leaving the key fob in the car might be testing your luck but a thief could break into your house and take your keys. Did you contribute to the crime because your front door was unlocked? That's more than a stretch. I very seriously doubt anyone having a problem with the claims process if this scenario actually plays out.
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