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We don't need no steenkin' third row seats in the Jeep. That's what the Durango is for.

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Re: New WK2 shifter handle for 2016 (pic)...

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We don't need no steenkin' third row seats in the Jeep. That's what the Durango is for.

Lol I was referring to the Grand Wagoneer. I definitely like the GC being two row. I don't like the Durango.
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Old 11-26-2015, 02:11 PM
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We don't need no steenkin' third row seats in the Jeep. That's what the Durango is for.
...or a Ford Explorer.

Seriously, if you need to haul a peewee a soccer team around, you likely don't need a real off road vehicle.

Personally, I'd rather have the cargo and storage space than more seating. I wouldn't want to be in a vehicle with that many people, anyway, especially something the size of the GC. Seriously, you're one fart away from suffocating.

As far as the new shifter, at first glance I got excited thinking they had added a real e-brake handle. I was horrified when I realized it was the gear shift.

What a sad looking device it is.

Having said that, while I generally have no issues hitting the right gear, I do have the occasional event where I hit Neutral or Park instead of Reverse - maybe 1 in 30 times or so. However, I've never failed to hit Drive or Park. I guess I'm just unafraid when I shove the thing back or forward.

Maybe the ones that fail to hit Park are babying it too much.

Just jam it in there. It's a transmission, not a CD player.
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The Durango was never intended to be premium. The Citadel trim was a trade-off since WC got canceled. (2nd gen Chrysler Aspen)
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Re: New WK2 shifter handle for 2016 (pic)...

I love the shifter in the MY14/15.

You heard me correctly—I think it's awesome.

I've never missed a selection, never have to look at it and the function to shift into Sport is brilliant—just slap it and lean on the loud pedal. I'm sad to see a backwards step with this new one.
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Re: New WK2 shifter handle for 2016 (pic)...

Love the 11-13 shifter. I was very disappointed with the current shifter knob.


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Re: New WK2 shifter handle for 2016 (pic)...

Someone posted above that it's wrong anyone could NOT have problems with the current shifter.

I never have, I love it, so yesterday when we headed off on a trip I decided to mess about with the shifter. I just can't for the life of me work out the problem.

When I give it a gentle pull it has a solid click position for each gear - the shifter has a very solid click, click, click into each gear as I pull it further and further. If I'm in park I can just give it a nice click down one position and she's in reverse. If I'm in drive I push it far enough that I feel it click through two positions/gears and she's in Reverse.

Or, if I give it a really quick pull/push it becomes an express train - straight from Park to Drive, or straight from Drive to Park.

I did my messing about with an open mind, trying to work out how it could go wrong. I kept messing about with clicking through the individual gears, and kept messing about with giving it a quick flick express straight to specific positions.

But I just couldn't fault it - it simulates being a normal shifter except that it doesn't physically move vertically along a shaft to click into each position, it tilts and provides the physical feedback of clicking into positions as necessary or even better lets me just flick it express straight to what I want.

Everyone is absolutely different and obviously it does work and feel different, so totally appreciate some simply wouldn't like how it works. But I can't for the life of me make it actually fault. I checked with my wife if she's ever found she didn't get into the gear she wanted and had to re-try but she gave me the old "what you talking about?" puzzled look and said she hasn't had any issues.

If, however, one were to somehow end up in reverse instead of park I can't say I've ever understood the American approach I see on television and movies whereby the park brake is not applied. You guys seem to call it an "emergency" brake and only use it sparingly - here in Australia it is the "Park" brake so, regardless that you have put the transmission into "Park", you apply the "Park brake". It's how we are taught and it's what we do. In American television/movies you see a car come to a stop and then make a momentary lurch as the car is simply left in park without any braking, but in Australia you see a car come to a stop and not move a single millimetre afterward as the park brake is now on. In such case if a car were accidentally left in gear an accident cannot happen.
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Re: New WK2 shifter handle for 2016 (pic)...

Love the shifter in my 2012. I've never warmed up to that little shifter knob they've been using.


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Old 12-01-2015, 04:55 PM
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Re: New WK2 shifter handle for 2016 (pic)...

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or maybe they could do something like this..

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Re: New WK2 shifter handle for 2016 (pic)...

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Someone posted above that it's wrong anyone could NOT have problems with the current shifter.

I never have, I love it, so yesterday when we headed off on a trip I decided to mess about with the shifter. I just can't for the life of me work out the problem.

When I give it a gentle pull it has a solid click position for each gear - the shifter has a very solid click, click, click into each gear as I pull it further and further. If I'm in park I can just give it a nice click down one position and she's in reverse. If I'm in drive I push it far enough that I feel it click through two positions/gears and she's in Reverse.

Or, if I give it a really quick pull/push it becomes an express train - straight from Park to Drive, or straight from Drive to Park.

I did my messing about with an open mind, trying to work out how it could go wrong. I kept messing about with clicking through the individual gears, and kept messing about with giving it a quick flick express straight to specific positions.

But I just couldn't fault it - it simulates being a normal shifter except that it doesn't physically move vertically along a shaft to click into each position, it tilts and provides the physical feedback of clicking into positions as necessary or even better lets me just flick it express straight to what I want.

Everyone is absolutely different and obviously it does work and feel different, so totally appreciate some simply wouldn't like how it works. But I can't for the life of me make it actually fault. I checked with my wife if she's ever found she didn't get into the gear she wanted and had to re-try but she gave me the old "what you talking about?" puzzled look and said she hasn't had any issues.

Cool Starry Bra.

I've only been driving for a few decades. And while I almost always hit to correct gear, there are far too many times when I have to look down or at the instrument panel to see which gear my WK2 decided to go into.

Park-to-Drive: Easy and always works

Park-to-Reverse: Easy and always works

Drive-to-Park: Fairly easy and almost always works. Sometimes the shifter "sticks" and the WK2 goes into Neutral instead of Park.

Drive-to-Reverse: Far too easy to miss & go into Neutral or Park. Using the "counting clicks" method makes it easier but should not be needed in this day & age.
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Old 12-01-2015, 07:54 PM
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seriously, after the first day I've had no problems with the '14 shifter.. and the D<->S motion is perfect.. I actually do that shift quite a lot on my long commute days (S rocks for on/off ramps)
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Re: New WK2 shifter handle for 2016 (pic)...

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Cool Starry Bra.

I've only been driving for a few decades. And while I almost always hit to correct gear, there are far too many times when I have to look down or at the instrument panel to see which gear my WK2 decided to go into.

Park-to-Drive: Easy and always works

Park-to-Reverse: Easy and always works

Drive-to-Park: Fairly easy and almost always works. Sometimes the shifter "sticks" and the WK2 goes into Neutral instead of Park.

Drive-to-Reverse: Far too easy to miss & go into Neutral or Park. Using the "counting clicks" method makes it easier but should not be needed in this day & age.
Awesome, you're old and have been driving a while. I pass a lot of people on the road that have decades of driving experience and they are still terrible.

Go look at a WJ shifter and tell me how exactly you know what gear you're in without either looking at the shifter or 'counting clicks'. My wife's '06 Accord is the same way, all the gears aligned in a straight pattern so you have to know how many clicks it is to get from one gear to the next.

Again, the only thing that has changed is the return to center, and if you aren't looking at the shifter, you wouldn't even realize it does that.
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