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Re: No audible Lane departure warning

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I get that these systems are great for fatigued drivers... but where does common sense and responsibility come into play?
If a driver is fatigued (drunk) enough that he/she is having difficulty staying in their lane, then lets be honest, they should not be on the road.
My .02.
Now, the part about it fights you if you do not use the blinker. I agree that using the turn signals is proper, however, around these parts using your turn signal is a notification to others drivers to close the gap and squeeze you out. Yep, its a dog eat dog world out there. Don't think I'd enjoy fighting the rig just to drive to work and back on our freeways.
How does it behave when you need to swerve out of your lane to avoid debris on the road that the pick-up/semi in front of you straddled, but you are going to crush? Does it fight then too?

I purposefully ordered my Overland without blind spot, auto cruise and auto brake because I don't like the idea of having the vehicle drive for me.
Having read this, and other threads about the braking characteristics, I think I made the right decision for me... although the auto cruise has got to be nice.
Having said all that, depending on the responses, I might be convinced otherwise on my next purchase.
Please understand, my response was not that it will help a drunk driver stay in the lane, it was saying that the land departure assist will help you stay in the lane continuously without shutting off. If you are testing the feature purposly as I was, it "appears" as if you are drunk as a skunk to other drivers around you as you "bounce" off the lane lines, lol. Sorry for anyone misunderstanding my description previously.

I feel that having these features is great, I would highly recommend anyone getting a new vehicle to get the features, they can all be turned off if you don't like them, but when buying a $50k car, if you don't get them, you will be pissed once you find out how awesome they are and you just bought a car without them.

The adaptice cruise control is a God send for anyone who drives on the highway for any moderate distance or who does long hauls like going on vacation or long drives to work.

Blind spot monitoring is also very nice, there is always that time you don't see someone in your blindspot, and thats where that little light in your mirror comes in to help remind you that they are there, or once you put your blinker on it will chime in with an audio alert to help remind you they are there.

Now as far as lane keep assist, and how much it "fights" you, it will not prevent you from doing anything. If you swerve, you are going in the direction you want to go. It is about as much resistance and someone putting a single finger on the steering wheel and turning against you, its quite suttle. I was suggesting that it will help those who hate blinkers because it would just get anoying after a while, however again you can turn if off, or also dial it down, it has 3 stregth settings.

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Old 10-02-2016, 09:30 AM
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Re: No audible Lane departure warning

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Mike, you don't have to "use" all those features, so if you had them, you could choose to enjoy ACC while not using the others. I will say, however, that blind-spot detection has saved my bacon multiple times on I-95 between here and DC when idjut drivers suddenly cross multiple lanes at high speed, often right after I've signaled a lane change and am checking in all directions that it will be safe. I'll not buy a vehicle without ACC at this point, too. It's a pleasure to have, even with the very occasional hiccup the errs to the side of safety.
Agreed with everything Jim said, he replied as I was working on my long winded answer. You should rethink your order. Those features ARE a good part of the reason I bought this vehicle.
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Re: No audible Lane departure warning

thanks guys.
if bind spot and auto cruise can be run with lane departure turned off it looks like a no brainer.
Auto cruise, it's my wifes daily driver, and we have the accordion effect in full swing on our highways... so, that alone would be worth it. Also, she has a really bad "over the shoulder check" that takes for ever and scare the living poo out of me... so... given what you gents have said regarding lane departure, next rig will have all the bells and whistles.
Next vehicle is 6-12 months out... but really eying the SRT... but dang it's a lot of coin.

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Re: No audible Lane departure warning

oh, and the drunk thing... please know I was not trying to be a thorn, but I have witnessed fatigued people that are literally as bad, if not worse than drunk drivers... long story, but woke up in the passengers seat and the person driving was all over the road... pulled off to switch drivers and this person was so tired I had to grab the wheel to keep from hitting parking lot curbs... twice! There was no alcohol or "other" usage... pure fatigue... scary... more scary than any vehicle I have been in being operated by a person that had consumed a couple drinks.
Fatigue is dangerous... I make sure to pull over and nap after having witnessed that... couple extra hours on the trip is better than being in the hospital... or worse injuring others.
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Re: No audible Lane departure warning

Lane Departure is AWESOME.

Fight is a strong word. Let's say a little resistance (which you can adjust or turn off) And it's right more than I am.

I think lane departure might even be better than ACC.

The safety factor of lane departure is pretty small but reducing fatigue it's fantastic.

There are other reasons you should not be driving besides being drunk. And you'd be lying if you said you've never accidentally drifted out of your lane a little due to a distraction or fatigue on a long trip.

Blind spot I find fairly useless but it may help one day. But it includes rear cross path detection. It's like having someone standing BEHIND the vehicle looking both ways SIMULTANEOUSLY and continuously as you back up. And again you'd be lying if you said nobody has ever honked at you backing out of a blinded parking spot or saying sh$t I'm lucky I didn't run into X.

If those never happened to you, you must have just got out of drivers school or live on a deserted island.

If the world were a perfect place, that mistakes don't happen, then they wouldn't make and sell such devices.
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Re: No audible Lane departure warning

Just got back from a long day of driving.

I use to have to "fight" with the lane assist, now that we have the settings adjusted it is awesome.

The ACC we both love, it's best feature of our new Jeep
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Re: No audible Lane departure warning

Tested it a bit more. At 60 mph or less it bounces from one side to the other if you let it drive and it will eventually bust through one side. At 65 mph and above it will tend to stay in the center of the lane after a correction. Same road, same conditions.
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Re: No audible Lane departure warning

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Just got back from a long day of driving.

I use to have to "fight" with the lane assist, now that we have the settings adjusted it is awesome.

The ACC we both love, it's best feature of our new Jeep
What settings do you have it on?
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Re: No audible Lane departure warning

My reading of what folks have been saying here about the fatigue factor is not that it lets fatigued, drowsy drivers continue to drive when they shouldn't, but rather that it REDUCES fatigue, thereby actually aiding drivers in staying alert on those long hauls. I'm very much looking forward to it.
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Re: No audible Lane departure warning

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My reading of what folks have been saying here about the fatigue factor is not that it lets fatigued, drowsy drivers continue to drive when they shouldn't, but rather that it REDUCES fatigue, thereby actually aiding drivers in staying alert on those long hauls. I'm very much looking forward to it.
I would agree, it helps reduce fatigue using the adaptive cruise control. The lane keep assist does appear to help alertness as if you do get a little drowsy or even just slightly distracted. For me, just a little distraction is broken by feeling the slight tug on the wheel, it's enough to remind you: 'HEY, pay attention!'
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Re: No audible Lane departure warning

Reduces fatigue... most interesting... would never have considered that.
I'm sold, it'll be included in the next rig.
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Re: No audible Lane departure warning

I can believe it based just on my recent experience of having my wife's Altima aligned. It used to wander in the lane and be a tiring PITA to drive at distance. Now it tracks reasonably true and it's like a different car, much more relaxing.
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