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Old 09-08-2013, 11:17 PM
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Re: No GC for me.

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The Leather in a Limited is not Perferated so it is extra durable... The Perf ones are more durable leather that I have seen in most vehicles but I think the Limites is just a touch tougher being without the perf.
Yeah I wondered about that. If you did spill anything on them it would go right down too. I'll stick with a sweaty butt
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Old 09-10-2013, 10:44 PM
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Re: No GC for me.

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Rock crawling on purpose is not an issue. A more realistic worst case scenario is on a two track in hilly country with patches of red clay around. I'm going pretty slow downhill into a gully with an uphill in front of me. As I get towards the bottom both right tires are suddenly on wet clay, which can be as slick as black ice, IME, and lose traction. But there is a hard turn at the bottom of the gully so rocking back and forth to get some speed up isn't possible.

Will QTII get me out? I'm pretty sure QDII/ELSD would, or would stand a better chance. Would you go down that track with QTII knowing ahead what is going to happen?

Ground clearance is not an issue. You can upgrade my tires so long as I can do three days on the interstate without noise fatigue (and you tell me what tires you're using!)
Bump, just in case someone knows or knows of a test showing it. I can use the DC group buy and have a pre-approved loan at 3.99%, if I'm gonna buy this now is the time to move.

I am in a Hertz Outback right now, at $800/month with XM radio. I can live with that for a good while though owning makes more sense, long term. It's just that I've compromised too many times, I don't want another five year note on a truck I'm not satisfied with.
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Old 09-11-2013, 01:52 AM
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Bump, just in case someone knows or knows of a test showing it. I can use the DC group buy and have a pre-approved loan at 3.99%, if I'm gonna buy this now is the time to move.

I am in a Hertz Outback right now, at $800/month with XM radio. I can live with that for a good while though owning makes more sense, long term. It's just that I've compromised too many times, I don't want another five year note on a truck I'm not satisfied with.
I can only tell you my experience with ours. I decided to try and take it off road with my wife in the passenger seat, that thing is her baby so if I hurt it at all I think she would kill me. I pulled off of a trail onto sand, I could feel us sinking down but thought nothing of it. Putting the jeep into reverse and giving it gas did nothing, all it did was spin. I turned the select terrain to sand and gave it gas, without hesitation, it backed right out. I'm sure I could have done the same thing by turning off the traction control, but wanted to try out sand mode. Keep in mind the tires were still at 40 psi. When we got out I looked back and we had sank down about 6 inches where we stopped.

Fast forward to a month ago. I washed her jeep and decided I was going to take it on the rocks in front of our house. I pulled right up to one, which is about 10 to 12 inches tall, and gave it gas, nothing again. Put it in 4 low, then rock mode, guess what? Went right up the rock. Keep in mind with the independent suspension there is zero flex, so it pulled the rear tire off the ground too.

My point is, qt2 is very capable, I would love to have the rear lsd, but was not willing to spend the extra 7k on it for the upgrade to the limited with the Hemi. For comparison I tried taking my truck on that same rock, it would not do it from the same position her jeep did. My truck is a 2013 ram 1500 outdoorsman 4x4 that includes the rear limited slip.
Her Jeep is a 2014 Laredo E with the towing package, all weather group, and CD player. Sticker came to just over 36k.
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Old 09-11-2013, 05:38 AM
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Talking Re: No GC for me.

I think you'll be alright with either but the GC is made for the rough stuff and has the clearance to not get stuck in the first place. And if you're really worried about it, get an extra set of off road tires, whack a winch on the front end or carry a come-a-long in the back. As a last resort there's always that donkey.
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