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Hey guys and gals, I'm shopping for a 2014 wk2 right now and have a question for y'all. How capable is the wk2 without the off road package? My wife and I are planning to take it to mild off roading trails - so is this package a must?

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Hey guys and gals, I'm shopping for a 2014 wk2 right now and have a question for y'all. How capable is the wk2 without the off road package? My wife and I are planning to take it to mild off roading trails - so is this package a must?
The packages add both capability and protection. You have to indicate which trim model are you considering (because you might be able to add either ORA-1 or ORA-2 or both) and what trail difficulty you are considering.

You will want at least skid plates and Low Range gearbox (with the included terrain management) and some means of recovery (tow hooks) and that comes with ORA-1. Alternatively, if you are considering an upper trim you might be able to just add skid plates alone separately, as some of the other features are already on the car. But people's ideas of "off-road" differs: parking on the grass at home, in the backyard, is also technically off-road. Or maybe you want to stay in a certain price range...and the upper trims Cherokees with bells and whistles, is what you really want. They are not that much smaller.
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Re: Off road1 package

I'm looking at a limited model. I would like to take it on some off roadtrails - I know most of them have trails just for stock cars - so nothing too crazy. Just want to have a little fun and make sure the car is protected
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Re: Off road1 package

I have the ORA1 package on my WK2 V6. I got so I could go across fields and down farm roads which are very similar to most east trails. Field have gullies, rocks etc and are far from rolling flat fields of grain. I dont rock climb with mine and I was going to rock climb it would be on the side of cliff with proper gear. Only thing I wish ORA1 package had was a Eaton electric locking rear diff.
I didnt want the air suspension since At the time in 2012 I wasnt sure of its durability and it wasnt very advanced.
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I have the ORA1 package on my WK2 V6. I got so I could go across fields and down farm roads which are very similar to most east trails. Field have gullies, rocks etc and are far from rolling flat fields of grain. I dont rock climb with mine and I was going to rock climb it would be on the side of cliff with proper gear. Only thing I wish ORA1 package had was a Eaton electric locking rear diff.
I didnt want the air suspension since At the time in 2012 I wasnt sure of its durability and it wasnt very advanced.
The '14 air suspension is nice and other than "raising" indefinitely when coming off park [fix available] the biggest advantage is being able to drop the vehicle for short folks, but raise it for stream crossing, rock/rut avoidance, etc. On the road, the air suspension definitely makes a difference in ride quality/handling in any and all modes compared to non-air--and thats from direct comparison of rental GCs without it vs one with it.

You can usually avoid rocks by just putting a wheel on them, but if your mild offroading includes roads where small trees tend to fall on them, or they are particularly rocky, the air suspension increases the odds of getting back ON the road again.

Dunno the OP's missus, but unless you've shared a Jeep before, you might discover that the missus after discovering how nice it is to get out away from roads, you might wish you had bought the OR-II since as confidence grows, the more trails you'll want to try.
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My off-roading is mild... piles of snow, dirt roads, cut fields and across my lawn to the shed. I had dealer install front axle and transfer case skid plates. Actually it is nice to have a little extra protection on the underside even if you never go off the asphalt.
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Re: Off road1 package

I have a 2012 with the QTII (4low and terrain-select), tow hooks but no skid plates.

I've done some off-roading here in Colorado on some pretty rocky stuff, scraped a few times (again, no skid plates) but I've been fine.

Here is a thread I started with some photos of the areas, links to the trails and how difficult they are, etc.

TurboSpartan - 4x4 CO Thread


I was originally going to add the skid plates, but have relied on wheel placement and going slow to avoid hitting things. I'd still like the skid-plates, but I also know that I am not planning on taking this much further than the difficulty range of trails I've already done.

Where are you located? It's so much rockier out here (duh... its the Rocky Mtns) than where I am from, in Michigan. In an area that is softer or if your "off-roading" is going to consist of dirt trails, mud, and not really any rock climbing or really rocky trails... I think you'd be fine as long as you had QT-II
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Re: Off road1 package

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I have a 2012 with the QTII (4low and terrain-select), tow hooks but no skid plates.

I've done some off-roading here in Colorado on some pretty rocky stuff, scraped a few times (again, no skid plates) but I've been fine.

Here is a thread I started with some photos of the areas, links to the trails and how difficult they are, etc.

TurboSpartan - 4x4 CO Thread


I was originally going to add the skid plates, but have relied on wheel placement and going slow to avoid hitting things. I'd still like the skid-plates, but I also know that I am not planning on taking this much further than the difficulty range of trails I've already done.

Where are you located? It's so much rockier out here (duh... its the Rocky Mtns) than where I am from, in Michigan. In an area that is softer or if your "off-roading" is going to consist of dirt trails, mud, and not really any rock climbing or really rocky trails... I think you'd be fine as long as you had QT-II
We're in Brooklyn, NY but will be going to trails in PA and NJ. Never been off roading before, but something I've wanted to do for a very long time.

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Dunno the OP's missus, but unless you've shared a Jeep before, you might discover that the missus after discovering how nice it is to get out away from roads, you might wish you had bought the OR-II since as confidence grows, the more trails you'll want to try.
Never shared a Jeep before, but seems as though you might be right.
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Re: Off road1 package

while i mean no offence to anyone ive done way way worse trails when i was a kid with my dodge dart, including the river crossing,(in the posted videos) so im guessing you would be fine
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while i mean no offence to anyone ive done way way worse trails when i was a kid with my dodge dart, including the river crossing,(in the posted videos) so im guessing you would be fine
Somewhere I have pictures of a lowly '66 MGB on the Kane Creek trail southwest of Moab.
Granted it took some pushing every now and then crossing the flats, and somewhere there is an MGB muffler along that trail, but good tire placement and experience driving bad roads can do wonders with unexpected equipment.
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Get the ORII and air suspension.

You will not regret it. It makes the jeep a really capable vehicle. And sure we once did a trail that looks like the rubicon meets Paris Dakar in an MG or VW or a 1972 ford escort mark I.
But we were 18 and didn't care that we kill the ender belly of our dads car :-)

Not worrying, and knowing the Jeep is a better off reader then you is worth the extra cost!
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