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Re: OK, bare with me on this rotation question (s)

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Awesome tips and I might have more questions for you.

So, I took two pics.

Is the first one the lca? And the second one (blue square) is where you would put the Jack stand?
Hard to tell from the pics, I don't know what that blue square is...

The rear "disc" under the shock/spring I mentioned earlier looks like this:



You want to jack directly under under the bottom of the spring. The silver part under the spring is the LCA.

For the front, the LCA looks like this, you want to jack directly under the shock (in this picture, the shock is yellow) where the bolt goes through the LCA.



Does that make sense?
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Re: OK, bare with me on this rotation question (s)

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Additonally, why is torquing to a specific tightness important (maybe a stupid question, but I'm big enough to admit when I don't know the answer)? I would just assume you want it as tight as possible.
WK2 Lug Nut Specs
Torque: 100 ft. lbs. +/- 15 (136 Nm +/- 20)

Torquing Wheel Lug Nuts / Lug Bolts

Follow the tightening pattern. I also got a torque wrench from Amazon... not too expensive, and worth it in my opinion. BTW, if you have never used one before, you should practice with the torque wrench at a very low setting so you understand how it indicates when the torque limit is reached/exceeded.
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Re: OK, bare with me on this rotation question (s)

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Awesome tips and I might have more questions for you.

So, I took two pics.

Is the first one the lca? And the second one (blue square) is where you would put the Jack stand?
The blue square sure looks like the jacking point--where the factory [otherwise worthless] jack fits in there. Not painted blue on mine, but now that I see one painted, may just use some old red paint to make it easier to spot.
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Could I use the pumpkin as a rear jack point if I wanted to?
Not a good idea... can stress it and possibly permanently bend the rear axle.

BTW, if Santa Claus did not buy you a good click-stop torque wrench, consider getting one. The needle/dial types are much more difficult to read than a good click-stop. Make sure you relax the tension on the wrench after you get done.

Crack the lugs a tiny bit loose while the tires are still on the ground, then as you put the wheel back on, snug them down using a cross-star pattern to avoid uneven torque on the wheel/rotor, then use the torque wrench for final tightening with the tires back on the ground.

Dunno if the rotors on the WK series are as easily warped as the more infamous ones made out of recycled chinese pie plates on older models or not, but don't overtorque.
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WK2 Lug Nut Specs
Torque: 100 ft. lbs. +/- 15 (136 Nm +/- 20)

Torquing Wheel Lug Nuts / Lug Bolts

Follow the tightening pattern. I also got a torque wrench from Amazon... not too expensive, and worth it in my opinion. BTW, if you have never used one before, you should practice with the torque wrench at a very low setting so you understand how it indicates when the torque limit is reached/exceeded.
Also, don't lubricate--can cause overtorqueing. Take a wire brush to the threads, and if you have one of those old battery terminal wire brushes, use it on the inside of the threads...

If you want to cut down a bit of lift time, put the thing in OR-II mode before you disable the air suspension from the Uconnect screens...
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Re: OK, bare with me on this rotation question (s)

I have the same set of floor jack and stands I bought from Sears last month. I don't really rotate my tires but I swap them out every 6 months or so. I too have a set of Wrangler Sahara wheels that I use during winter and stock WK2 wheels in summer.

Anyways, when I swap the wheels, I do one wheel at a time. It does take a little bit of extra time, but I am okay with that. I lift the Jeep at the marked locations only. I hate the kind of weld they have and one of these days, I need to get me those hockey pucks. I like the idea of lifting the entire side of the Jeep at one time, but I am hesitant to do that.

Also, like others warned, do not go under the jeep when it just lifted by the floor jack and not supported by jack stands. I don't use jack stands when swapping wheels because it is usually 2 min job to swap them and I don't need to go under the vehicle.

Definitely get a torque wrench and enjoy working on your Jeep. You will need it even to perform oil changes.

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NEVER use the pumpkin.
http://www.wk2jeeps.com/Misc/2011_wk_lift_points.pdf
Cut a hockey puck in half and put it on the floor jack so that it straddles the pinch weld. Keep a solid puck for the rear jack points. Or get creative
Great effing idea..
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Hard to tell from the pics, I don't know what that blue square is...

The rear "disc" under the shock/spring I mentioned earlier looks like this:



You want to jack directly under under the bottom of the spring. The silver part under the spring is the LCA.

For the front, the LCA looks like this, you want to jack directly under the shock (in this picture, the shock is yellow) where the bolt goes through the LCA.



Does that make sense?
Indeed it does.. Thanks again.

As for the blue square it is directly in front of the rear tire.. I believe it is the recommended mounting point for the jack
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I have the same set of floor jack and stands I bought from Sears last month. I don't really rotate my tires but I swap them out every 6 months or so. I too have a set of Wrangler Sahara wheels that I use during winter and stock WK2 wheels in summer.

Anyways, when I swap the wheels, I do one wheel at a time. It does take a little bit of extra time, but I am okay with that. I lift the Jeep at the marked locations only. I hate the kind of weld they have and one of these days, I need to get me those hockey pucks. I like the idea of lifting the entire side of the Jeep at one time, but I am hesitant to do that.

Also, like others warned, do not go under the jeep when it just lifted by the floor jack and not supported by jack stands. I don't use jack stands when swapping wheels because it is usually 2 min job to swap them and I don't need to go under the vehicle.

Definitely get a torque wrench and enjoy working on your Jeep. You will need it even to perform oil changes.

Cheers,
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How do you like the jack/jack stand set?
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Re: OK, bare with me on this rotation question (s)

Get a 2nd Jack, you can get them so cheap. I hate using stands.
Unless I'm working under the car which is extremely rare.


I think you can find this same Jack for like $40.00 on ebay.


Amazon.com: TruePower 1-1/2 Ton 3000 LB Aluminum Racing Jack: Automotive


I got a jack that looks identical to this one but was rated 4000 lbs. But I think it's the same jack. It's a rebranded jack from china, but it does the trick.


I took the handles off. So I could get it up next to the tire under the lower control arm. I only have to jack it up an inch or so to get the tire off.


I still don't believe in rotating tires side to side at all. Just front to back.


So many tires are directional anyway.
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Re: OK, bare with me on this rotation question (s)

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How do you like the jack/jack stand set?
I used it few times in the last month and it works good. I lifted my 911 using the jack to place it on some wooden blocks I have to give clearance for performing oil change. I also used it on the Cayenne to swap out the wheels (winter tires) and also on my Jeep to do the same. All in the one month or so and it did its job. I think I paid $89 + taxes and even though it is made in China (what's not made in China these days?), I think it is worth the money. I plan to sell the creeper on CL 'coz i already have one from Harbor Freight.

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