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Old 12-28-2014, 04:36 PM
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OK, bare with me on this rotation question (s)

So, I just got this

http://www.craftsman.com/shc/s/p_101...id=00950188000

And plan on doing the rotation myself. I read through two diff threads about doing it yourself, but wanted to know if you can jack from a center point in the front and rear and take two off at a time. If so, where is a good spot for front and back?

Additonally, why is torquing to a specific tightness important (maybe a stupid question, but I'm big enough to admit when I don't know the answer)? I would just assume you want it as tight as possible.

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Old 12-28-2014, 04:47 PM
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Re: OK, bare with me on this rotation question (s)

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So, I just got this

Three-Ton Jack, Jack Stands And Creeper Set: Do It Yourself With Sears

And plan on doing the rotation myself. I read through two diff threads about doing it yourself, but wanted to know if you can jack from a center point in the front and rear and take two off at a time. If so, where is a good spot for front and back?

Additonally, why is torquing to a specific tightness important (maybe a stupid question, but I'm big enough to admit when I don't know the answer)? I would just assume you want it as tight as possible.
If you want to do two at a time get jack stands. Jack from approved jacking points. Read the manual, it has the information you need.

Bolts need to be torqued with in a certain range to ensure the wheel stays on and the bolts are not over stretched.
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Ahhh.. Now I know.

And the Jack purchase came with two jack stands and a creeper (in addition to the 3 ton jack)
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Re: OK, bare with me on this rotation question (s)

Never be under a vehicle that is not properly, securely supported.

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Re: OK, bare with me on this rotation question (s)

If you know someone that does their own tires, ask for help, but do the work yourself. You will need a torque wrench, if you do not have one. Changing/rotating tires is very easy, but can be embarrassing to deadly if done incorrectly.

Remember, no one is born knowing how to do this. We have all learned from someone.
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If you know someone that does their own tires, ask for help, but do the work yourself. You will need a torque wrench, if you do not have one. Changing/rotating tires is very easy, but can be embarrassing to deadly if done incorrectly.

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Thanks for the tip and video.. I am friendly with the local tire shop so I might stop by and ask for proper placement of everything before I do it.. Hell, I might just do it in the parking lot just to make sure, then do a write up as a "how to for first timers" for the forum.
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Re: OK, bare with me on this rotation question (s)

as an aside, how do you like the sahara wheels?
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Nothing but compliments! I like the 7 spoke look and with the tires, it gives it a solid stance with great all weather security. A little more road noise, but nothing to complain about.. Plus, I got the set for a song (take offs after 500 miles) for $500 or something.
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Re: OK, bare with me on this rotation question (s)

I'll start by saying it's a good thing that you got a 3ton jack and jack stands! I agree with the previous poster who mentioned that you should also get a torque wrench, I personal torque mine to 115/120lbs.

I rotate my tires every 5k, I've done so twice already (running 32" tires), and this is what I do.

Before you start, I recommend busting loose the lugs BEFORE you attempt to take off the wheels, on all four-corners. Start with the rear...

Rear-passenger tire: Put the jack in from the side of the car so that the front of the jack is facing the rear of the vehicle. Line up the jack with the "disc" that is under the LCA (lower control arm), which is directly below the shock/spring. Jack up the tire until it clears the ground, and throw the jack stand under the LCA (preferably the flattest spot you can find). After lowering the jack so that the LCA is resting on the jack stand only, ensure that the tire still clears the ground, and push on the vehicle, making sure the jack stand is secure.

Next, take the jack and move up to the front-driver tire.

Front-driver tire: Put the jack in from the front of the car, again finding the LCA and lifting it from there, I don't bother with a jack stand at this point, as I just use the jack. If you want, you can throw a jack stand under for added security.

Once both tires are off the ground, take them both off, and rotate. Tighten down the lugs and then obviously you're going to do the same on the opposite side, again, start with the rear. After you're done, take the torque wrench and torque the lugs. I follow this pattern (F): *Note that I do not have a 5th wheel*



I don't bother with trying to jack up the car using the factory jack-points unless only lifting one wheel at a time. The reason being, is that especially with a 2.5" lift, you'll never get the tires off the ground trying to use a jack stand.
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Awesome tips and I might have more questions for you.

So, I took two pics.

Is the first one the lca? And the second one (blue square) is where you would put the Jack stand?
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Could I use the pumpkin as a rear jack point if I wanted to?
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Could I use the pumpkin as a rear jack point if I wanted to?
NEVER use the pumpkin.
http://www.wk2jeeps.com/Misc/2011_wk_lift_points.pdf
Cut a hockey puck in half and put it on the floor jack so that it straddles the pinch weld. Keep a solid puck for the rear jack points. Or get creative
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