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ORA II advice for purchase

After much research and extracting loads of helpful information from this forum, I'm close to a decision on a 2016 Overland in Light Brownstone Pearl. That color doesn't go into production until April so I still have some time to fine tune my decision.

My quandary is about the ORA II package. I do travel on some unpaved/gravel forest service roads in our North Carolina mountains while flyfishing. My present 4WD vehicle with just over 8" of ground clearance has never hit bottom, but I've come very close navigating around obstacles. I have skid plates on my present SUV. Most of the time I am on highways and well maintained roads.

So my question is whether Quadra-Lift and 20" tires would suffice, or do I go for skid plates and 18" tires?

I'm interested in the experience of those who have the off road package. The skid plates seem like a no brainer and I guess any dealer could install those later. I just don't have enough information regarding 18" vs 20" tires to know the pros and cons.

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Re: ORA II advice

The 18" will allow you to have some more tire meat, I would be nervous going down a gravel road with larger rocks with the 20" wheels. You risk a rock coming up and scratching the wheels.

My Jeep came with ORII, so 18" wheels. I use those in the summer, then got a set of the 20" off Craigslist that I have my winter tires mounted to.
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If you're on the same western NC forest roads I'm on, I wouldn't want to take 20" wheels there. I'm going for ORA-II on my '17.
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Re: ORA II advice

Why so unsure? The 18 inch rims with more tire will allow the car to better absorb the road (or lack of) imperfections, stones, ruts etch. Plus it will allow you to air down safely. Tires are cheaper for when you decide to upgrade.

Besides, the ORA-2 package adds one or two other things even to an Overland, besides tires and skids - which you want. All for a modest uncharged. Besides, adding skid plates later sill always be a more costly affair, both in price and labor. Others have talked about the dealership installation experience here.
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Re: ORA II advice for purchase

I went with the 18s and have thought about switching to 17s. There is a better tire selection for the smaller wheel size and I almost always air down when leaving the pavement.

Around here the dirt and gravel roads are rough.
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Re: ORA II advice for purchase

+1 for ORA2

IIRC All the available tires/rims have the same outside tire diameters, so you don't gain/lose anything clearance-wise by fiddling with that.

The 18's give you much better rock/pothole/curb protection, potentially at the cost of handling at speed. You gotta make that tradeoff for yourself.

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Re: ORA II advice for purchase

18" vs 20" was my biggest dilemma before signing the papers. My Overland came with 20s but the salesman said if I really wanted 18s then he'd swap them on the spot. 18s and more sidewall and more air down ability? Or 20s that look nicer (to me) and have better turn in and handling?

I bought it with the 20s. Skid plates were part of the deal, installed 3 days after buying. I've done a fair amount of off-roading and have done some great obstacles at my local Jeep Park. On the stock /50 rubber I did scratch my wheels a little. But now with oversize 275/55-20 AT tires there is plenty of rubber for me and my needs and I love the look.

I'm glad I kept the 20s. YMMV.

Edited to add two posts with pictures of the 20" wheels with the new rubber -- some mud on my rig since I just got back from that nearby Jeep Park:

Duratrac wrangler 275/55/20

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Re: ORA II advice for purchase

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18" vs 20" was my biggest dilemma before signing the papers. My Overland came with 20s but the salesman said if I really wanted 18s then he'd swap them on the spot. 18s and more sidewall and more air down ability? Or 20s that look nicer (to me) and have better turn in and handling?

I bought it with the 20s. Skid plates were part of the deal, installed 3 days after buying. I've done a fair amount of off-roading and have done some great obstacles at my local Jeep Park. On the stock /50 rubber I did scratch my wheels a little. But now with oversize 275/55-20 AT tires there is plenty of rubber for me and my needs and I love the look.

I'm glad I kept the 20s. YMMV.

Edited to add two posts with pictures of the 20" wheels with the new rubber -- some mud on my rig since I just got back from that nearby Jeep Park:

Duratrac wrangler 275/55/20

Duratrac wrangler 275/55/20

This was really helpful, thanks for the pics. I totally agree that the 20 inch wheels have more attitude.
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Re: ORA II advice for purchase

The 20's look better than the 18's, however 18's will perform better off road. There isn't a lot of sidewall with the 20's and those sidewalls are extremely important for traction in deep snow mud or sand. That and you can't air down 20's properly.

Get the ORA2 with the 18's and you also get that extra skid protection. You won't regret it!
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The 20's look better than the 18's, however 18's will perform better off road. There isn't a lot of sidewall with the 20's and those sidewalls are extremely important for traction in deep snow mud or sand. That and you can't air down 20's properly.

Get the ORA2 with the 18's and you also get that extra skid protection. You won't regret it!
No doubt 18s will have taller sidewalls than 20s, but, with 275/55-20 rubber there is plenty of sidewall height and air down capacity. Plenty enough for me. It's a personal choice, weighing all the variables.

I've hit the sand, rock and mud trails at my local Jeep park, and also the dunes at Pismo Beach, and I am very happy with my 20s.

YMMV.
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Another plus for QL that I've seen a lot lately since I've been hitting the trails 1-3x a week (like today) is the cleanup. I take my rig to a self-wash car wash, the kind where you drop in quarters and there's a spray wand and a wash brush, after hitting the trails.

I put my rig at the highest ride height and that gives easy access to clean the wheels and the wheel wells. It's very handy.
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