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Old 04-27-2015, 10:46 AM
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Re: ORC module recall

Thanks. Sometimes the cure is worse than the disease.

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Thanks. Sometimes the cure is worse than the disease.
I hear ya. To help you decide if you really want to "survive, evade, resist and escape" I offer the following lifted from the NHTSA website..

What I find mind numbing is that the supplier, Bosch, has been manufacturing the corrected part since August 27 of 2013 and those new/revised parts are JUST NOW becoming available...huh????

the gory details....

Description of the Defect : Some 2014 MY Jeep Grand Cherokee (“WK”) and Dodge Durango (“WD”) vehicles may develop an Occupant Restraint Control (“ORC”) module internal fault causing the airbag warning lamp to illuminate and potentially disable the passive restraint system (frontal airbags, seatbelt pretensioners, and side airbags). Description of the Safety Risk :In certain crash situations this condition, where the passive restraint systems could potentially be disabled, may result in an increased risk of injury to the occupants.

Description of the Cause : Excess thickness of the conformal coating can result in uncured product next to the Printed Circuit Board ("PCB"), which allows lead salts to form and cause resistive shorts across the PCB. Humidity exacerbates the creation of lead salts. Identification of Any Warning that can Occur : An ORC internal fault will cause the Airbag Warning Lamp ("ABWL") to illuminate.

Chronology :
• In June 2014, Regulatory Affairs became aware of an increase in 2014 MY WK ORC module warranty claims associated with an ABWL.
• The supplier (Bosch) informed Chrysler that its investigation determined the majority of internal faults
exhibited an Internal 1 Diagnostic Trouble Code B2207, while a small number exhibited a loss of communication.
• Warranty analysis showed that the increased rate of ORC replacements, for internal defects, occurred
between the start of the 2014 MY WK production in January 2013 and July 2013.
• Chrysler was informed that Bosch’s investigation, which included a similar issue in a similar component from another Original Equipment Manufacturer (“OEM”), found an uncured conformal coating condition present on the PCB of modules experiencing similar issues.
• Based on Bosch’s investigation with the other OEM, and Bosch’s establishment of a new best practice for selective spraying of conformal coating, Bosch modified the selective coating process parameters for the 2014 WK / WD ORC modules on August 27, 2013.
• Chrysler warranty data confirms the effectiveness of Bosch’s August 27, 2013 process improvement as the end of the suspect period. Additionally, no module manufactured by Bosch after the August 27, 2013 has been returned due to this cause.
• In late September 2014, Bosch informed Chrysler that the other OEM was experiencing a second wave of seasonal failures. The other OEM has suspect vehicles in the field for a longer duration than Chrysler.
• As of September 5, Chrysler is aware of 15 VOQs and 2,558 warranty claims which relate to, or may relate to this issue.
• As of September 24, Chrysler is not aware of any accidents or injuries potentially related to this issue.
• On October 7, 2014, Chrysler determined, through the Vehicle Regulations Committee, to conduct a
voluntary safety recall.

How Remedy Component Differs from Recalled Component :
On August 27, 2013, Bosch implemented changes to their selective conformal coating process. The
changes resulted in the thickness of the conformal coating to be no greater than 100 micrometers, ensuring a complete cure in the Bosch oven.

Identify How/When Recall Condition was Corrected in Production :
On August 27, 2013, Bosch implemented their new best practice for selective spraying of conformal coating as a result of their previous investigation with another OEM.
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Old 04-27-2015, 11:24 AM
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Yep, good news its not that bad. Didnt mean to scare with my '02 horror story. I bet the dealer is getting about 1hr for it.
Yes i was there for less than an hour for orc and another flash so was not to bad
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Re: ORC module recall

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Are you saying the center console needs to be removed to swap it out?
I believe the side panel of the center console can be removed without having to remove the entire center console. The faulty part is probably accessible with the side panel removed.

Anyone have a copy of the recall instructions for the dealers, maybe post it?
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Re: ORC module recall

Usually instructions are posted on wk2jeeps.com but couldn't find it there. Is this recall requires software flash as well?

I had to do this twice:
- when it failed for the reason mentioned in the recall - no fun guys. Constant seat belt nagging, cruise and other things not working not to mention your airbags. That was 300 miles from home.
- when they did the recall

I think they can access this fairly easy as they have done this very quickly. Also my seat was moved all the way back. I would just do it. If this fails and you might be in a crash you might be quite f%^#% up. Just remember if this fails, you bring your car in and dealer doesn't have the part they will not let you drive the car.

Again, this headache is not worth it. Just do it.


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Re: ORC module recall

Here's my ORC module recall horror story. Took my 2014 Summit in for an oil change and the P67 recall on June 11. The dealer hasn't been able to won't explain to me how or why this happened, but in the process of replacing the ORC module the side and seat airbags went off. Luckily, no one was hurt.

The Jeep has been sitting at the dealership for 3 weeks waiting for new airbags. Every time I call they say it will be only a few more days. I wonder how this will affect my resale value.

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What a friggin rookie error. Apparently the tech didn't read all the "disable SRS...failure to do so....accidental airbag deployment...." warnings plastered in bold all over the recall instructions (attached)...clowns!
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Damn... I bet that tech had to change his underwear after that happened.

What a mess...
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Re: ORC module recall

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What a friggin rookie error. Apparently the tech didn't read all the "disable SRS...failure to do so....accidental airbag deployment...." warnings plastered in bold all over the recall instructions (attached)...clowns!
Thanks for the PDF. When I inspected the car, I saw they had a piece of wood (2x3) holding up the battery box cover. When I asked if anyone got hurt, their response was, "the tech was laying on the floor in the back seat when it happened." Maybe he was reconnecting the battery? What a surprise he got. Thanks.
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Re: ORC module recall

Reviving this thread because my Jeep is at the dealer right now having the recall performed. I'll report back when the recall is completed, and I have time to thoroughly inspect it. My fingers are crossed!
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Re: ORC module recall

Got the ORC module recall done, and there doesn't seem to be any problem with that. While they had it they did the following flash updates, even though I didn't request them, or tell them I was having any problems. They flashed the following modules: AMP, HVAC, BCM, PCM, and TCM. I had to go through my settings and reset a number of them that changed because of the flashes.

Thought I had everything back to normal until I went out this evening and noticed my approach lighting in the outside rearview mirrors ( puddle lamps) don't light anymore when I remote unlock the vehicle. I went through all the settings again, and couldn't find anything to toggle that feature on or off.

I really like the approach lighting, and I'm very disappointed they don't work. Anyone have any ideas? I'll be calling the dealer next week if I can't figure this out.
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