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What dealer ? And why ?

I went out to deep Jersey where I got my current 2013, they have won my future business over my local dealer in NYC by making me feel they appreciate my business. I spoke to them today and they are still looking into my order but I think I'm sold on the 16.


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I'd love to see the pricing shift btween a 15 and 16. No way would I buy a 15 without a serious discount. The minute you drive the 15 off the lot it depreciates a full year. Research indicates that mileage free depreciation is about 8k for the first year and 4k for the next two years. That means you should save at least 4k over 16 model. Good luck getting 4k below let's just say invoice on a 16. That doesn't take into account the new enhancement value add.
Personally, I wouldn't want to be the beta tester for Jeep's new electric steering system.

New engines, transmissions, and other major systems always seem to have bugs (that may never be resolved) the first year of release. That said I have broken my rule before and paid the price.
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I understand and agree with most of the above. I bought a 2011 and had to work through some bugs but that's normally only a couple of visits in the first 10k miles. I'm fine with all that as long as it's warranty work. At least you then get to enjoy the exclusiveness longer than most others do. It sucks to buy a new vehicle only to find in a couple months the bigger better newer one is available. At least for me thats the case. I'll take my chances on the newest one heck I'd buy hellcat jeep serial number 0001 if I could!

As for the end of year deals. I doubt you will save more than $2000 but be advised if you buy an end of year vehicle you will be taking a hit. I know this because I've lived it. If you buy end of year you take a two year depreciation hit. If you plan to keep it forever no problem. If you get in an accident and total it, or decide to sell/trade it then it does become a problem.
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I understand and agree with most of the above. I bought a 2011 and had to work through some bugs but that's normally only a couple of visits in the first 10k miles. I'm fine with all that as long as it's warranty work. At least you then get to enjoy the exclusiveness longer than most others do. It sucks to buy a new vehicle only to find in a couple months the bigger better newer one is available. At least for me thats the case. I'll take my chances on the newest one heck I'd buy hellcat jeep serial number 0001 if I could!

As for the end of year deals. I doubt you will save more than $2000 but be advised if you buy an end of year vehicle you will be taking a hit. I know this because I've lived it. If you buy end of year you take a two year depreciation hit. If you plan to keep it forever no problem. If you get in an accident and total it, or decide to sell/trade it then it does become a problem.

More than 2,000? Where are you guys shopping? That should be easily obtainable even on 2016's... I got my '15 when the order banks opened for 2015 ordering and got it for 6k off msrp. If you aren't getting it for at least 5% under invoice you're getting ripped off.




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As for the end of year deals. I doubt you will save more than $2000 but be advised if you buy an end of year vehicle you will be taking a hit. I know this because I've lived it. If you buy end of year you take a two year depreciation hit. If you plan to keep it forever no problem. If you get in an accident and total it, or decide to sell/trade it then it does become a problem.

It truly depends on the resell value and mileage of the vehicle. I had purchased a 2010 CRV in October that same year as an end of year deal. There wasn't to much of a discount under invoice but it worked out for me. When I drove it to my Jeep dealer in April 2014 I unloaded it at top asking price. Maybe the reason was that it looked to have "low mileage" since it was a 2010 model but yet I only drive it for the last few months of that year. Maybe that low mileage helped the value. Also it was a Honda and they are nearly the best for holding resale value.


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More than 2,000? Where are you guys shopping? That should be easily obtainable even on 2016's... I got my '15 when the order banks opened for 2015 ordering and got it for 6k off msrp. If you aren't getting it for at least 5% under invoice you're getting ripped off.
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Not exactly what I was saying....

Let's say you go to the dealer and they have a brand new 2015 and a brand new 2016 on the lot. The 2016 has some new model year mark up which is normal but its only a couple hundred bucks. It also has some very nice newly added features maybe even some additional HP or fancy sound deadening. Because you prefer to buy local rather than fly across the country you decided that 3% below invoice is a fair price for the 2016.
What does that dealer have to do on the price of that 2015 to make you buy it?

I'm saying there might be an extra $1000 rebate on the 2015 and maybe just maybe the dealer will come down another $1000 (3% below invoice -$1k). But if you decided to go with the 2015 the minute you drive off the lot your vehicle depreciated a full year more than the 2016 so you just lost an extra $4000.
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Not exactly what I was saying....

Let's say you go to the dealer and they have a brand new 2015 and a brand new 2016 on the lot. The 2016 has some new model year mark up which is normal but its only a couple hundred bucks. It also has some very nice newly added features maybe even some additional HP or fancy sound deadening. Because you prefer to buy local rather than fly across the country you decided that 3% below invoice is a fair price for the 2016.
What does that dealer have to do on the price of that 2015 to make you buy it?

I'm saying there might be an extra $1000 rebate on the 2015 and maybe just maybe the dealer will come down another $1000 (3% below invoice -$1k). But if you decided to go with the 2015 the minute you drive off the lot your vehicle depreciated a full year more than the 2016 so you just lost an extra $4000.
The other piece to this is that they often quietly decontent as the models progress to keep year to year markups low. Ie no dual exhaust on v6 limiteds for 2015.
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