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Old 12-17-2010, 11:43 AM
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Re: overland delays makes LR4 appealing?

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Because landrover's are gay. Relax everything will work.... You think the landrover has solved all their kinks as well?


I think this quote just made my day!
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Old 12-17-2010, 11:47 AM
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.....my local dealership doesn't want to deal off sticker on the overland, b/c they are so hard to get and sell them within hours of getting them...so that makes the price point b/n LR4 and gc pretty darn close.....and they will deal a little on the LR4.....I am a techie.....LR4 has some cool techie stuff, like the surround camera, wheel and suspension position indicators on the nav screen....more interior room......topo lines on the nav.......visibility out of the lr4 seems a little better.....the snooty ness of driving a landrover is def a negative...but i could over come it.......there are times when the third row seats would be very handy....
Unless you are in some wasteland area (or even if you are), I would not base the buying decision on one dealer's insistence on charging MSRP. There are deals out there. I saw an older thread stating that someone had bought a new JGC Overland from CarMax for $1000 under invoice no-haggle pricing. This is even better than the 1%-under-invoice preferred pricing via the TreadLightly.org member benefit. I just checked their site and found that deal as well (but I don't know if they do factory orders at that pricing, and most of their inventory is in warm areas so they only have 2WD). If I found what I wanted on someone's lot I would do what others here have done and buy remote, then toss in the fun of a road trip back home.

Also a techie here. The visual depiction of the Rover's suspension/tranny status was cool at first.

Also agree on the diff in sight lines. Although each time I've driven a JGC so far, it's had a big sticker on the driver's side rear window, which didn't help resolve blind spot issues!

The snootiness factor is more subtle. Depends again on your location. In my area RR's are a dime a dozen (hope that didn't sound snooty, but it's true of RR as well as many upscale vehicles). Have fun with the decision!
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Old 12-17-2010, 11:56 AM
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Re: overland delays makes LR4 appealing?

I had a 2007 LR3 (first year model, I believe) and thought it was an awesome vehicle. No maintenance issues at all. The only reason I sold it was because I soon became interested in trailer camping and the LR3's short wheelbase wasn't up to the task and I decided to buy a truck.

That said, if I still had the LR3 I'd probably be trading it in on a GC. Too many advantages to list here, but overall the GC better fits our lifestyle and needs.

OP, I understand the need to get moving on a vehicle but think that the GC is worth waiting for. I don't think you'll regret buying the LR4, but the GC is not only a better value in the short term, it's also a better value in the long run when you consider regular service, maintenance and resale. Besides, IMO the GC is a much better looking vehicle! Good luck with you decision.
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Re: overland delays makes LR4 appealing?

I agree on visibility. Its really hard to beat the Land Rovers seating position...makes the car feel a little less stable in cornering because you sit so high but its awesome crawling in traffic or driving through a crowded parking lot to tailgate.
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Re: overland delays makes LR4 appealing?

Regarding dealers holding the line on MSRP for 2011 Overlands. Please....there are plenty out there who are offering under MSRP, at Invoice, minus dealer holdback, etc. My lease deal is Invoice, minus $1500 Lease Loyalty, minus security deposit. Additionally, there are plenty of finance companies that are offering interest rates below 4% and below 3%. Mine deal is under 3%. Walk away from dealers dealing at MSRP. That is BS...!!!
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i am a 5th generation jeep owner.......and have generally been happy......in my 2nd overland......but all the delays in features is frustrating......esp all the nav and i phone 4 issues......

since i have the cash, why shouldn't i just get a landrover LR4 ??

since you have cash, go get you LR4. bye. more jeeps for us
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Re: overland delays makes LR4 appealing?

lr4 is less for more, the overland is more for less. Don't be a sucker.
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Old 12-17-2010, 06:19 PM
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lr4 is less for more, the overland is more for less. Don't be a sucker.

X2.

Land Rovers are very nice. But on a bang for the buck basis the WK2 is a clear winner.
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Re: overland delays makes LR4 appealing?

It all depends on what you are really looking for. If reliability were equal (might be we are talking about chrysler here)

LR4
Pros: Space, comfort, styling, 4x system
Cons: Price, reliability and availability of parts.
JGC
Pros: comfort, 4x system, styling, strong dealer network + parts availability, Price
Cons: Reliability, bound to be everywhere and not much distinguishes a 45k version from a low 30s version (if prestige is of any importance, its not to me)

I really think its about a wash...to me it would come down to the local dealership.

I buy Merc E classes for daily drivers not because I think its much better than the BMW 5er, but because I have a good relationship with my local dealer. They have always made things right with me and throw in extras all the time like detailing my car every 3 months at no charge, giving free loaner cars, and they don't want to check my credit score before letting test drive new cars.
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Re: overland delays makes LR4 appealing?

Put it this way...the lr4 lux edition is the direct comparable to the wk2 5.7 4x4 Overland. The lux edition MSRP's at $60k. Overland MSRP's at $47k. Yes, the lr4 has 3 rows of seating and 6 speed tranny. But guess what the lr4 doesn't have at that price? Adaptive cruise and blind spot monitoring. Take it or leave it, the wk2 has much better value than lr4 and is equal, if not better, in off-road and luxury.
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Re: overland delays makes LR4 appealing?

Both great vehicles.. I think Petersen's 4x4 mag picked the LR4 as their 4x4 of the year.. and Four Wheeler mag picked the WK2..
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Re: overland delays makes LR4 appealing?

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Put it this way...the lr4 lux edition is the direct comparable to the wk2 5.7 4x4 Overland. The lux edition MSRP's at $60k. Overland MSRP's at $47k. Yes, the lr4 has 3 rows of seating and 6 speed tranny. But guess what the lr4 doesn't have at that price? Adaptive cruise and blind spot monitoring. Take it or leave it, the wk2 has much better value than lr4 and is equal, if not better, in off-road and luxury.
And the LR has front park distance control, a center console cooler box, and a surround camera system. It also accelerates faster than the Jeep.

It does weigh more 5,617 vs 5,210 for the Jeep though.

I'm not a fan of adaptive cruise or blind spot monitoring. I have adaptive cruise on my Merc and hate it and I still have the ability to turn my head and have my mirrors adjusted properly (seems to be a lost art).

I still think the Jeep is a tremendous value and probably my next SUV but the difference in price is like 240 a month assuming 4% interest and no down payment...which really isn't much.
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