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Old 08-17-2012, 05:42 AM
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How much competition is there for the Grand Cherokee Overland? The answer is: Not much.

Seeking serious off road, deep snow capability combined with real luxury and proper road-car manners, I easily narrowed down my choices for a mid-sized SUV. Who didn't qualify? Frankly most of those others can't really handle the rough stuff. An X5 or Q7 are nice, but the reality is that they are excellent all-weather road cars and nothing more. My friend's X5 was not any more capable than my Mitsubishi Outlander or Subaru Tribeca. If you see a lot of snow don't kid yourself that an MDX can save the day. We learned first hand that it can't. Another choice might have been the LR4, but the bad quality reports are common and I could find few happy owners. A brand new LR4 at a dealer would not unlock and a 2nd one wouldn't start. No thanks!
Last year we had one bad storm, a few days before Halloween, that really socked us. Two feet of snow crushed one of our steel sheds and my wife had to abandon our Subaru 3 miles away. I tried to rescue her, but our Outlander would not budge. Standing by the side of our un-plowed road I watched a white Overland punch through the snow, it's ride height at max, and cruise down the road without a care. Days later I met the owner (he lives on our road) and listened to his logical buying process that led him to the Overland. He had found a SUV he felt might be better, but it was the Toyota Landcruiser; a giant mega SUV that was an unfriendly ride on our narrow roads and just too big. His choice was not an emotional one. His wife worked as a EMT and she needed something that would not get stuck. Like me they had been through the Subaru's, 4 Runners and AWD wannabees that were great until things got really rough. Then all of the AWD lock buttons weren't worth diddly.

So here I am with a new Black Forest Green Overland with V8 Hemi, Saddle Black interior, Adaptive Cruise, Summit grill and chrome accents (and skid-plates soon to come). Let me start with what I don't like!

1) The NAV system is needlessly complicated, though it's quite powerful overall. As others have pointed out the Sirius radio control is limited in only displaying a small group of stations at one time. It's just a clunky interface across the board. Once mastered it's nice enough.

2) The EVIC display is good in some respects and poor in others. I like that NAV info is mirrored there, but the separate status screens for oil temp, tire pressure and so on....just ridiculous. All of that info should be viewable in ONE page via the NAV screen. The info is useful, but the manner in which you need to get to it is once again CLUNKY!

3) It's a bit of a bummer that the giant sunroof only opens half way. It lets a lot of light in, but I think the sunroof on the Subaru Forester "opens bigger."

4) The switchgear for the headlights feels like it came from a Ford Fiesta.

5) The hidden padded area for Phone with the USB under the armrest is a pretty cheap looking/feeling item, though it's functionality is fine.

6) No third row. Even a little pop-up jumper seat like the one if our previous Mitsubishi would have been welcome. But I understand the trade off....full spare and no tire under the car.

And there you have it. Not a long list! Here are some additional observations: Hemi vs. V6. Having driven both versions quite a bit and noted the rather small difference in MPG, I went with the V8. If you haven't bought the GC yet don't bother with the V6. On hills and highways it's going to strain at times while the V8 is never really working hard and conveys a feeling of power that is in keeping with the luxury level of the Overland. And allow me to discuss the Overland trim level for a moment. Don't talk yourself out of it for ANY reason unless it's beyond your means. The quadra-lift suspension is part of the end-game in the logical evolution of the new Grand Cherokee. Handling: Make no mistake; this is not a car and never really handles like one. The weight and suspension are truck like when it comes to driving dynamics. Good work has been done and road manners are secure, but this is not a SUV body riding on a sports sedan chassis and doesn't try to be. Fit and finish in the Overland is very well done, but the paint is somewhat below the mark as it's not a perfectly glass-like job. I had put a small dent in the door and the new paint applied to the area actually looks BETTER than the factory job! Not noticeable unless you stare like a mental patient, but I do think Jeep can do better on the factory paint. Beyond that there is little to complain about. The Overland is in a class all to itself. I've got an interior that makes Mercedes owners jealous, true off road/heavy snow capability, luxurious and very quiet ride, serious towing ability and a upscale appearance that is what you should expect in a truck costing 45-50K. If you don't need it's unique abilities a good case can be made for an X5, X3, Q5, Q7 and so on. Otherwise I feel like I'm driving a luxury tank that can do what few other SUVs can manage!

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Agree with all of these comments 100% except about the third row seating. Excellent leg room and lack of a third row was appealing to me. Also my paint is excellent and agree with the interior is superior except that the dash plastic is way too cheap. Buttons are flimsy and the gorgeous steering wheel is cheapened by awful fit and finish on the center plastic housing which has sharp edges on mine.

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Old 08-17-2012, 08:25 AM
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Agree with all of these comments 100% except about the third row seating. Excellent leg room and lack of a third row was appealing to me. Also my paint is excellent and agree with the interior is superior except that the dash plastic is way too cheap. Buttons are flimsy and the gorgeous steering wheel is cheapened by awful fit and finish on the center plastic housing which has sharp edges on mine.

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I was given a 2012 compass while my overland was in the shop and I noticed it had the identical steering wheel (minus the wood) as my overland.
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Old 08-17-2012, 08:41 AM
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Congrats and Nice write up.

- I agree about the radio/nav unit. While it's not bad, it's not great and I find myself not using fully as it's too time consuming. I didn't care for te 430N either. Acura has been my favorite in terms of straight up usability.
- As others have posted, I totally disagree with the 3rd seat complaint
- My light button seems very solid
- I always thought the USB phone storage area(armrest) seemed quality...more so when compared to my last car(AcuraTL).
-V6vsV8 Both are great...all depends on what your primary use will be. I occaisonally tow but do a lot of HWY driving and have no regrets going with the 3.6L. Yes, with very extreme conditions (mtn./hilly terrain) and if pulling heavy loads often, the V8 is the way to go. However, 90% of time the 3.6 is more then adequate for me and given all the hwy driving i do, getting 25+mpg (at times) is gravy.
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Old 08-17-2012, 09:30 AM
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I like my 730N just fine. The UI is dated looking but very responsive. Mine performs well and I have no issues with voice commands.

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Handling: Make no mistake; this is not a car and never really handles like one. The weight and suspension are truck like when it comes to driving dynamics. Good work has been done and road manners are secure, but this is not a SUV body riding on a sports sedan chassis and doesn't try to be.
Being this is my first big SUV/Jeep with the 20" wheels the above comment is something that is taking me a while to get used to.

Good review. Thanks.
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Being this is my first big SUV/Jeep with the 20" wheels the above comment is something that is taking me a while to get used to.

Good review. Thanks.

Yup...those 20's do dance at times, but that's what a wide tire will do. On the other hand I believe that the Overland at the lowered setting for highway speeds is quite resisant to rollovers. For a vehicle not built for speed it is very easy to cruise around at 85-90 MPH in this tank. My wife says 75 feels like 55 and she has to watch not to speed. I think this is due to the isolating qualities of road and air noise efforts by the designers. It's a very quiet car at speed.

This morning we were seeking the route to JFK airport while driving and the hassle of trying to TELL the system where I wanted to go was annoying. Stopped the car and my wife typed it on-screen and we had the route in two seconds. I'm going to get a mod to make this thing take input while driving ASAP.

The actual navigation is VERY good. Took me back home fast and alerted me to a traffic issue and skirted around it. Very slick.



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Color looks great! I'm glad things worked our for you.
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If 3rd row seating was important, you could have checked out the Dodge Durango, basically a JGC clone (same assembly line)
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If 3rd row seating was important, you could have checked out the Dodge Durango, basically a JGC clone (same assembly line)
But Durango isn't trail rated...

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If 3rd row seating was important, you could have checked out the Dodge Durango, basically a JGC clone (same assembly line)

The Durango is just a big car compared to the Overland when it comes to handling heavy snow. The family next store to us has one and it's barely better than the Outlander when things get rough. It cannot do what the Overland does and it's extra seating only means more people would be stuck in it! ;-)

I think a lot of people buy the GC not needing it's capabilities. If I didn't get heavy snow I would have bought a Mitsubishi EVO and a minivan instead of the Jeep!



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The GCs capabilities in the snow was one thing that put it on my short list of vehicles to consider.
Im looking forward to this winter and seeing how it handles it. granted im in Seattle so snow really never gets too deep but a good 4wd system helps get me to and fro and (assuming she trades her Highlander) will get my fiance to and fro as well.
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