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Re: Overland Vs. Overland Sumit

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That's not correct. This has been covered in a few threads on here but for the 2011s, QDII WAS standard if you ordered the V8. For 2012, QD II is only standard on the Summit. To get it on the regular overland, you have to add the ORAG II package with the V8.
There are a few different reports in other threads that confirm this through the EVIC of actual owners. The confusion I think is with the V6 model.
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The Summit comes standard with must have options like advanced collision warning. There are tons of threads discussing the virtues of these systems, and those that think they are "nanny" options are dinosaurs about to go extinct. Their arrogance will get some of us killed someday. These are the same guys that say we don't need airbags because they are so alert they will never get into an accident They just don't get it. The Summit V8 also comes standard with QD

The WK2 link provides excellent detail, but to summarize:

In order to get QD in an overland, you must order the ORA II, but that package swaps the 20 inch wheels with 18s.QD is standard on Summits. You do have to have the V8 option regardless.

The 730N is currently a mandatory option on the overland, so if you configure the vehicles the same, the Summit costs you maybe $4-500 more, or about the same if you really want QD and saddle seats, and less money if you also want 20 inch tires.

The Summit does have some nicer chrome bits (grill, fog light covers, polished wheels) and some interior detail (mostly a saddle dash and a different wood trim, which I don't like but others love). You decision may be more about if you care for 18 or 20 inch wheels and the QD system.

If you don't care about the saddle interior or QD, you could have thought about a optioned up Limited. The 2012 Overland does not seem to be as much a value as the 2011 was.
Seriously though you should not need your car to tell you that you are about to run into something in FRONT of you or slow you down because you are gaining on another vehicle to quickly if you need that you should not be on the road!! The blind spot detection is the only thing I would even consider necessary.
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Re: Overland Vs. Overland Sumit

I got the Summit for one reason...the saddle dash. It just finishes the interior. The adaptive cruise is plain old neat and whether you choose to admit it or not, the car has blind spots..the detector lights are pretty cool as well.
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I got the Summit for one reason...the saddle dash. It just finishes the interior. The adaptive cruise is plain old neat and whether you choose to admit it or not, the car has blind spots..the detector lights are pretty cool as well.
Yep ^^^

Also, for the blind spot, the yellow triangle in the side mirror lights up when something is in the blind spot (VERY accurate and helpful in congested traffic...it provides a reassurance without having to crank your head around) and you can set it to bing when when you use your signal and something is there (in addition to the yellow triangle) so you get an audible warning too as an option.
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Re: Overland Vs. Overland Sumit

I chose to order the regular Overland over the Summit because I liked the lighter color of the wood on dash, doors and wheel compared to the very dark colored wood on the Summit. I also didn't like the 2 tone saddle/black interior on the Summit. Also I like a white exterior color and didn't like the white gold color that the Summit offers. I do like the chrome fog light openings on the Summit and will install those on my Overland. I also don't care for the Summit grille.

So for me, choosing the Overland was easy.
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Re: Overland Vs. Overland Sumit

I have an 11 Overland 4x4, Silver with the black leather interior and it's great. Every option I wanted and a few more. I guess I'm not old enough for a Summit yet.
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Re: Overland Vs. Overland Sumit

I don't mean to hate on the Sumit owners btw. I mean all the extra features sound nifty and great, but I don't think I'd throw down the extra cash for it. As I said earlier, the chrome bits I don't care for at this moment. If I start to change my preference later on, I could easily just order them and install them.

As for the other features, although they do sound absolutely wonderful! I can't justify putting the extra money for it. Sure they sound like they are great features and although I've never used them before. I trust your good reviews regarding them. But, I just think to myself...should I put the extra money or spend that split second twisting my head back to check my blind spot? I'm not trashing the features. I would love to have them, but I don't see myself putting that much money on them as of yet for such features. I'd rather wait for another 5-6 years for the next model, when these features become more standard. That way I don't have to throw down the extra cash. It's just simply because I need to be smart with my cash right now considering a lot of the investments I'm making. So my cost benefit analysis opted those out.

It's funny though. Here in Kuwait, I saw an Overland that had all the sumit features but no Sumit badging. All the chrome and the gentleman at the dealership was telling me something about having blind spot detection and so on. I could be mistaken though. I'll confirm when I go pick up my 2011 5.7 Overland sometime this week .
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I don't mean to hate on the Sumit owners btw. I mean all the extra features sound nifty and great, but I don't think I'd throw down the extra cash for it. As I said earlier, the chrome bits I don't care for at this moment. If I start to change my preference later on, I could easily just order them and install them.

As for the other features, although they do sound absolutely wonderful! I can't justify putting the extra money for it. Sure they sound like they are great features and although I've never used them before. I trust your good reviews regarding them. But, I just think to myself...should I put the extra money or spend that split second twisting my head back to check my blind spot? I'm not trashing the features. I would love to have them, but I don't see myself putting that much money on them as of yet for such features. I'd rather wait for another 5-6 years for the next model, when these features become more standard. That way I don't have to throw down the extra cash. It's just simply because I need to be smart with my cash right now considering a lot of the investments I'm making. So my cost benefit analysis opted those out.

It's funny though. Here in Kuwait, I saw an Overland that had all the sumit features but no Sumit badging. All the chrome and the gentleman at the dealership was telling me something about having blind spot detection and so on. I could be mistaken though. I'll confirm when I go pick up my 2011 5.7 Overland sometime this week .
I would never hate on summit owners my only problem is people relying on this type of equipment to operate a motor vehicle I'm sure being in Kuwait you know you have to keep your head on a swivel and when some crazy Kuwaiti comes whizzing up the breakdown lane in a Lambo at 100mph no blind spot detection in the world will help you, you have to save yourself! The first thing they teach you in hunter's safety is that a weapons safety is a mechanical device that can and WILL FAIL!! Same goes here.
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Re: Overland Vs. Overland Sumit

What you've said has merit, but the truth is that the human brain will most likely fail before the blindspot warning system fails.
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Seriously though you should not need your car to tell you that you are about to run into something in FRONT of you or slow you down because you are gaining on another vehicle to quickly if you need that you should not be on the road!! The blind spot detection is the only thing I would even consider necessary.
STUFF HAPPENS.

People get distracted or aren't looking where they should be at any given moment. A perfect example is "Stop-N-Go" traffic. Someone might be looking over their right shoulder to ensure its clear for a lane change when the vehicle in front of them suddenly stops or slows down quickly. In those kind of situations, the Forward Collision Warning system can sure come in handy!

No one is perfect all of the time. And even if YOU think you're one of the best drivers ever born, there are lots of other idiots on the road with you to make up for your excellence.

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What you've said has merit, but the truth is that the human brain will most likely fail before the blindspot warning system fails.
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