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Old 11-15-2011, 11:21 AM
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I love the features of my Summit. The ACC is wonderful on long drives down I-95 or any other highway for that matter. It's nice to be able to approach a slower car in the left lane, have your car slow to maintain a 2-3 car length gap, and then accelerate on its own again without you ever having to touch the gas or brake pedal, or disengage the cruise. I do a lot of distance driving and while I would agree it's not a "gotta have", it certainly is a "nice to have". I also believe it helps with gas consumption on long trips as the Jeep's computer brain does a better job than I do with moderating the speed. The blind spot monitoring system has helped me numerous times. I especially notice it when I am on a three lane highway, changing from one of the outside lanes to the middle lane. It has alerted me more than once that a car in the opposite lane from me, but slightly behind, has decided to move into the same spot I was, despite the fact that my signals were alerting other drivers to my intentions...It also works really well in a parking lot when backing from a parking space. People that decide they don't want to wait for you to get out of your space and accelerate down the lane quickly tend to present a problem when you're beside a large vehicle that doesn't give you a clear line of sight down the lane.

I've heard the forward collision warning once, and it was when a car was coming in the opposite direction decided to make a left turn in front of me when there really wasn't enough space to do so. The warning sounded as the car moved into my path, and since I was already applying brakes and shifting to my left in order to get out of his way, it shut off a second later.

I love the saddle interior and I too have received numerous comments on how nice it looks. I don't get glare off the front winshield and I think it completes the interior nicely. Like others have said already, its all about personal preference. I am a gadget guy and love the extra electronics that came standard on the Summit.

I think what GCOverland was trying to say though was, these "Summit Features" like Adaptive cruise, Blind Spot monitoring, etc, are not Summit Features at all, they can easily be added to any Overland. So you don't need to get a Summit for this technology. The only reason you would buy a Summit is for the aesthetic options that can Only be had by getting the Summit. Chrome grill, polished wheels, Saddle Dash, etc.

There's absolutely nothing wrong with a preference for the Summit based on aesthetic features, I mean the way your vehicle looks is a major factor for just about everyone, but I think this thread somehow turned into a conversation about the adaptive cruise and collision warning when this has nothing to do with whether you get the Summit or not.
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Old 11-15-2011, 01:47 PM
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I think what GCOverland was trying to say though was, these "Summit Features" like Adaptive cruise, Blind Spot monitoring, etc, are not Summit Features at all, they can easily be added to any Overland. So you don't need to get a Summit for this technology. The only reason you would buy a Summit is for the aesthetic options that can Only be had by getting the Summit. Chrome grill, polished wheels, Saddle Dash, etc.

There's absolutely nothing wrong with a preference for the Summit based on aesthetic features, I mean the way your vehicle looks is a major factor for just about everyone, but I think this thread somehow turned into a conversation about the adaptive cruise and collision warning when this has nothing to do with whether you get the Summit or not.
Yes, that is EXACTLY was I was trying to say. Thanks!
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Honestly, I don't get this discussion. The difference between a Summit and a regular Overland is COSMETIC. that's what it boils down to. Nobody is opting for the Summit just because of the collision-warning or a blind-spot assist because you can get that on the regular Overland as well.

And if somebody prefers the Summit due to its appearance, it still doesn't mean that individual HAS TO use certain features of the car.

And if you want a fully loaded Overland, the Summit doesn't cost much more either - which leaves only one deciding factor: APPEARANCE.

So again, I can't follow the discussion why certain FEATURES would be deciding factor between the regular and the Summit.
Not so and believe me cause I just found out the hard way!! For 2012 the ELSD and Quadra Drive are not standard on the straight Overland, you must get the ORAII package to get it. I just tried to add it today and it is already assigned a serial number and might not be possible ! Won't know for 24-48 hours...
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.... The only reason you would buy a Summit is for the aesthetic options that can Only be had by getting the Summit. Chrome grill, polished wheels, Saddle Dash, etc.
Yup - but you left out the most important Summit-only option: Rugged Brown paint
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Old 11-15-2011, 08:23 PM
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Re: Overland Vs. Overland Sumit

I think early on in the thread there was a comment that one reason to not to get a summit was that you were forced to get and pay a lot of money for worthless features, like collision warning... then someone said, wait a minute those features are indispensable... etc.. etc.. then it turned into the kind of discussion you sometime get on an open forum.

You know, I was once bitter that I had to buy all these extra costly (several thousands of $$$) features just to get quadra drive and ELSD in a 2011, and now I kinda like them... well except for that #$%@ 730N radio.
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Old 11-15-2011, 10:11 PM
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Not so and believe me cause I just found out the hard way!! For 2012 the ELSD and Quadra Drive are not standard on the straight Overland, you must get the ORAII package to get it. I just tried to add it today and it is already assigned a serial number and might not be possible ! Won't know for 24-48 hours...
That's not what I was talking about. The question wasn't what's STANDARD - the point was that every TECHNICAL feature of the Summit is AVAILABLE on the regular Overland as well.

Sure, in your case you had to order the ORAII to get the ELSD - but that actually proves my point that you can get ELSD on the regular Overland as well. It's not standard but it's available.
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Old 11-16-2011, 01:37 AM
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Re: Overland Vs. Overland Sumit

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That's not what I was talking about. The question wasn't what's STANDARD - the point was that every TECHNICAL feature of the Summit is AVAILABLE on the regular Overland as well.

Sure, in your case you had to order the ORAII to get the ELSD - but that actually proves my point that you can get ELSD on the regular Overland as well. It's not standard but it's available.
You do have a point. I asked my dealer why they didn't carry the Overland in Kuwait. He said because he noticed that in Kuwait they didn't want all the features in the Summit. So they have Overlands wth different options (some include Summit options such as ACC). But he said from their history with the Durango and the JGC no one cares for ACC here and these extra options such as blind spot monitoring so it wouldn't make sense to get the Summit. The only real deal breaker for them to order the Summit were the looks which turns out not many people wanted.

This was actually a discussion with the management. He said the market for Summits in Kuwait is not really shining here. IF someone wanted one so bad, they'd make an order for the person but they've been selling Overlands like crazy here apparently.

Also kind of to answer some of the points from earlier...

I started this thread just to understand what the differences were between the Overland and the Summit. Turns out, you can get the same functionality if you pay a lot more for the Overland. I was more focused on 2011 than 2012 but I assumed they were the same. Turns out I was wrong. 2011v8 Overlands come with the variable suspension whilst 2012v8 Overlands you need to order the package.

All in all, I was just curious to see what was the big difference between them. In all honesty, I'm going to say the Saddle interior and the Chrome bits (at least from what I understand on the 2011s). The functionality can be added in on an Overland. Though I didn't change my choice. I opted to keep ACC, blindspot and so on off my options list. I've gone full options on pretty much everything else. Not to hate on ACC and all the Summit options, but I just don't have the extra cash to throw for these options (even though it's not THAT big of a difference considering the amount I'll already be paying).

Though gotta be smart. I'm hopefully going to invest on buying a condo space in Hamilton, Ontario to boost my realestate and rent it out to people in the area.

So I didn't really want to spend the extra money on something that for me was "not necessary" but I'd definately "enjoy" having. It was basically a needs vs wants for me. I opted for the needs instead of the wants.
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Re: Overland Vs. Overland Sumit

Hi All,

I'm trying to buy a V6 Overland and my dealer is having a terrible time finding one for me with the black interior and the Advanced Warning system. Their sister dealer has a black Overland Summit, but I'm trying to understand just what you're paying for with the Summit. Am I correct that in a V6 the only thing that the $3,600 Summit package adds to the Overland is the Advanced warning system, New Saddle interior with brown dash and black wood instead of vice-versa, and the chrome bits and badging?

If that is correct, then you are paying $1,035 for the Summit badges, dash and wood color, right? An Overland with Advanced Warning package ($1,295.00), New Saddle interior ($275.00), and Chrome Edition Group ($995.00) comes to $45,485, whereas an Overland Summit is $46,520.

Am I missing some feature that accounts for the extra thousand dollars?

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I just checked when you said that and see that the Chrome package only has the side steps and sill guards. Thus, the Summit doesn't include that $995 option. So it costs $2,000 for the brown dash, chrome grill, chrome foglight surrounds, and polished wheels?
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I just checked when you said that and see that the Chrome package only has the side steps and sill guards. Thus, the Summit doesn't include that $995 option. So it costs $2,000 for the brown dash, chrome grill, chrome foglight surrounds, and polished wheels?
Black wood trim, with matching Black wood steering wheel. Now chrome front towing hooks (msrp $500) come with the car I believe as well. Lastly, STANDARD Rear ELSD with Quadra Drive II.
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Black wood trim, with matching Black wood steering wheel. Now chrome front towing hooks (msrp $500) come with the car I believe as well. Lastly, STANDARD Rear ELSD with Quadra Drive II.

He's talking about a V6, no V6s have ELSD
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