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Re: Overland vs summit

Thanks for the responses. Let me clarify my question. I am not planning for major off roading. Simply some off road trails for camping etc. I was wondering what the differences between summit and overland are. I thought that with the cosmetic enhancements the summit might be an issue with the little off roading that I do. It seems not. So other features- it seems that the summit has suede headliner and front parking sensors and better sound system. Are the seats and/or leather really better? Anything else? Thanks. Deciding between a max steel overland w indigo/brown leather and advanced technology package or deep auburn summit w siena brown/black leather. Is it worth the extra 3k. I really like the look of the indigo leather but haven't seen the Siena


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Old 03-05-2015, 09:19 AM
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Re: Overland vs summit

For the mild off-road/path you state, you should have no issue with the Summit and it's a top-notch vehicle for comfort and "bells and whistles". Definitely my choice!
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Re: Overland vs summit

I agree, even though I opted for an overland for mild to medium off road the summit will do just as well.
And just the front parking sensors and the HK sound system makes it better : )
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Thanks for the responses. Let me clarify my question. I am not planning for major off roading. Simply some off road trails for camping etc. I was wondering what the differences between summit and overland are. I thought that with the cosmetic enhancements the summit might be an issue with the little off roading that I do. It seems not. So other features- it seems that the summit has suede headliner and front parking sensors and better sound system. Are the seats and/or leather really better? Anything else? Thanks. Deciding between a max steel overland w indigo/brown leather and advanced technology package or deep auburn summit w siena brown/black leather. Is it worth the extra 3k. I really like the look of the indigo leather but haven't seen the Siena


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You will be fine with the summit for the type of off-roading you are discussing, that is the type of off-roading it is intended for.

concerning other differences you are asking about, there are other minor ones, 2015 (2014s didn't)summits get an acoustic windshield that is supposed to help with noise, and some type of electronic noise canceling system again to help with road noise. I think the sill plates also light up on the 2015s or something like that. different 20 inch wheels which im sure you are aware of. summit gets headlight washers. The HK stereo($2000 option on SRT) and the front parking sensors are probably the two bigger differences but I think someone mentioned above that HK will become an option on overland at some point.

Another way to look at it is the price difference between a 4x4 v8 summit and an v8 overland with advanced technology and Quadra drive is $3100 add the $2000(assuming the cost will be 2k) HK to the overland when available and the difference between the two is $1100. for that $1100 more on the summit you get front parking sensors, acoustic glass, headlight washers, suede, are those items worth $1100 that is for you to decide. Bottom line is when you comparably equip an overland and add HK on when available the prices are very close to each other and becomes more of which one appeals more to you and do you just plain like better.Throwing the HK in the mix will likely bring prices fairly close. There are other things you can add like platinum pack age on summit or ORAII on to overland if you desire. just turns into more the route you want to go vs a cost decision. Good luck you will be happy either way
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I'm not sure if these pictures uploaded (I am doing this from my phone) but if they didn't I will try again when I get home.
I like how that winch you have is integrated behind the bumper, keeps it cleaner looking. like to see it when you get it finished and cleaned up
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You will be fine with the summit for the type of off-roading you are discussing, that is the type of off-roading it is intended for.

concerning other differences you are asking about, there are other minor ones, 2015 (2014s didn't)summits get an acoustic windshield that is supposed to help with noise, and some type of electronic noise canceling system again to help with road noise. I think the sill plates also light up on the 2015s or something like that. different 20 inch wheels which im sure you are aware of. summit gets headlight washers. The HK stereo($2000 option on SRT) and the front parking sensors are probably the two bigger differences but I think someone mentioned above that HK will become an option on overland at some point.

Another way to look at it is the price difference between a 4x4 v8 summit and an v8 overland with advanced technology and Quadra drive is $3100 add the $2000(assuming the cost will be 2k) HK to the overland when available and the difference between the two is $1100. for that $1100 more on the summit you get front parking sensors, acoustic glass, headlight washers, suede, are those items worth $1100 that is for you to decide. Bottom line is when you comparably equip an overland and add HK on when available the prices are very close to each other and becomes more of which one appeals more to you and do you just plain like better.Throwing the HK in the mix will likely bring prices fairly close. There are other things you can add like platinum pack age on summit or ORAII on to overland if you desire. just turns into more the route you want to go vs a cost decision. Good luck you will be happy either way
And headlights r adaptive on Summit and Overland has stiffer seat foam.
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And headlights r adaptive on Summit and Overland has stiffer seat foam.
Good point I forgot about the adaptive headlights I actually really like those they work well. you mean there is a stiffer seat than the summit? lol I was bothered by how stiff the summit seat was when I first got it but it loosened up over time and is all fine now. I do remember reading a review a while back that stated it felt like the seats were carved out of granite maybe they were reviewing the overland
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Good point I forgot about the adaptive headlights I actually really like those they work well. you mean there is a stiffer seat than the summit? lol I was bothered by how stiff the summit seat was when I first got it but it loosened up over time and is all fine now. I do remember reading a review a while back that stated it felt like the seats were carved out of granite maybe they were reviewing the overland
Uh huh, most...only the Ltd/Lux ll and Laredo r less dense:

For MY14 (MY15 almost assuredly exact same) your seat foam is:

Laredo/E, Cloth....#2 Foam
Altitude, Suede....#5 Foam
Limited (Std)....#6 Foam
Limited (Lux II)....#1 Foam
Overland....#5 Foam
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SRT (Suede Perf)....#4 Foam
SRT (Laguna)....#7 Foam

As a reminder, a higher number is denser/stiffer foam. Several other factors affect perceived comfort but foam density is a major player. Not trying to make a big deal of it as it has only been mentioned by a few as a dislike but I did not like the Overland seats and seat comfort IMHO should b on the short list of things to confirm as acceptable.
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Re: Overland vs summit

All helpful info. I appreciate everyone's input. Comparing the overland and summits stereo systems...is it a big deal for nonaudiophiles? Or is it really worth it? I don't mind paying for the summit but I really love the max steel w indigo leather and neither is available on the summit.




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I'm perfectly happy with the Alpine system in my Overland.
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All helpful info. I appreciate everyone's input. Comparing the overland and summits stereo systems...is it a big deal for nonaudiophiles? Or is it really worth it? I don't mind paying for the summit but I really love the max steel w indigo leather and neither is available on the summit.

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