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Aside from cosmetic stuff and color choices, how do they differ? Is the summit as off road capable ?


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Old 03-04-2015, 12:46 AM
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Re: Overland vs summit

For off-roading, I'd go with an Overland with the off-road package (= 'Trail Rated'). That package comes with wheels (18") and tires that are better suited for the job (although far from perfect), skid-plates and a bunch of other stuff that comes in handy.

For luxury, I'd go with the Summit. Awesome interior and a great (and for now, exclusive to the Summit and SRT) sound-system. That, however, will also be available on the Overland in the near future.
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Re: Overland vs summit

They are both "just as capable" off road if similarly equipped, but the Summit is marketed for mostly on-road/lux...the unique front and rear fascias require physical modification to install the front tow hooks, for example. If off-road is an important focus for you, go Overland. If you want the top luxury and top bells-and-whistles and will be doing mostly on-road driving, Summit is the ticket.
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Re: Overland vs summit

Personally I wanted the luxury of the Summit and off road capability. It costs a little bit of money and takes a little work to add the items that come in the ORAII to the Summit but to me it was worth it. Good luck on the decision!
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Re: Overland vs summit

I think it depends a lot on the level of off-road ability you want. The ORAII Overland and the Summit have the exact same drivetrain, air suspension, transfer case and all of that. The ORAII Overland also has Skid Plates, Tow Hooks, 18 inch wheels, better approach angle. If your focus is going to be on more challenging areas and rock crawling type stuff probably better with the overland as you will benefit from the added ORAII items above.

With exception of approach angle the other ORAII items can be added to summit if you decide you want the other items on summit, tow hooks you will need to cut openings for the hooks but the mounting points are all there for the factory hooks. Skid plates are a fairly easy bolt on and if you decide you want the 18s most dealers would gladly negotiate taking your more expensive 20 inch summit wheels in exchange for the cheaper 18s off of a limited or something. They will just slap the 20s on the limited and call it a dealer upgrade and tack $1000 or whatever on to the price of the limited lol, key there would be to cut that deal before you buy it because they wont do it once your 20s are "used" because then they cant sell them as new on the other jeep.

I added the skid plates and hooks to summit was about $550 for both to do it yourself and I didn't want or need the 18s. The summit set up with hooks and skid plates works fine for beach driving, rough back road camping and mild -to-medium trails. If you get into heavier stuff you probably will want the overland better approach angle/18s and ability to more easily take off the front air dam.
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I think it depends a lot on the level of off-road ability you want. The ORAII Overland and the Summit have the exact same drivetrain, air suspension, transfer case and all of that. The ORAII Overland also has Skid Plates, Tow Hooks, 18 inch wheels, better approach angle. If your focus is going to be on more challenging areas and rock crawling type stuff probably better with the overland as you will benefit from the added ORAII items above.

With exception of approach angle the other ORAII items can be added to summit if you decide you want the other items on summit, tow hooks you will need to cut openings for the hooks but the mounting points are all there for the factory hooks. Skid plates are a fairly easy bolt on and if you decide you want the 18s most dealers would gladly negotiate taking your more expensive 20 inch summit wheels in exchange for the cheaper 18s off of a limited or something. They will just slap the 20s on the limited and call it a dealer upgrade and tack $1000 or whatever on to the price of the limited lol, key there would be to cut that deal before you buy it because they wont do it once your 20s are "used" because then they cant sell them as new on the other jeep.

I just added the skid plates and hooks to summit was about $550 for both to do it yourself and I didn't want or need the 18s. The summit set up with hooks and skid plates works fine for beach driving, rough back road camping and mild -to-medium trails. If you get into heavier stuff you probably will want the overland better approach angle and ability to more easily take off the front air dam.
You can still get better approach angles with the summit too, it just requires a little more modding. I recently put on the Rocky Road Outfitters pre-runner plate in the front (it does change the look of the front of the Jeep though and takes a little body work). It can be done though...
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Re: Overland vs summit

ORA-II doesn't really do anything for "approach angle"...QL works the same on any trim level. The difference with Summit here is that it's harder to "remove things" that you might do more easily on the Overland to give more clearance for that approach angle.
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ORA-II doesn't really do anything for "approach angle"...QL works the same on any trim level. The difference with Summit here is that it's harder to "remove things" that you might do more easily on the Overland to give more clearance for that approach angle.
Agreed. I unclipped the bottom portion of the front fascia on my Summit (which definitely took a bit more work than the easy to remove lower fascia on the Overland) and plan to cut the the part of the lower fascia that would sit outside the tow hooks off and reinstall those parts only. It will look similar to Zybane's "Arctic" Diesel Build. But it is alot of work and from experience I would caution people not to drive without those pieces on as I did. We didn't quite finish all of the front end by Sunday night and I had to leave those pieces off and now my felt fender splash guards are trashed. :-(
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Off road is covered so...front park sensors and adaptive bi-xenon headlights with washers std on Summit, can't get on Overland....HK stereo rocks but is supposed to b an option on Overland "this Spring".... If u go V8/Diesel the rear ELSD and Quadra Drive ll is std, Overland it is included in ORA ll with V8/Diesel...without ORA ll u have to select the option and it is a must have if u r springing for 4x4 and V8/Diesel esp for the $795 list.

Also, b sure to drive both to check on seats. Overland has stiffer seats and while most all seem ok with them the Summits r way more comf, subjective tho.

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You can still get better approach angles with the summit too, it just requires a little more modding. I recently put on the Rocky Road Outfitters pre-runner plate in the front (it does change the look of the front of the Jeep though and takes a little body work). It can be done though...
yeah I agree you can do things to increase approach angle on summit. The lower air dam does come off I took it off to put the hooks on. It doesn't come off as easy as the overland's though it takes longer to pop those 16 clips on summit. I just did the skid plates and hooks because it didn't take much time and was fairly low cost and also kept the aesthetics of the summit in place. skid plates you don't see and tow hooks stick out just enough to get a D ring around them and are black just like the lower grill. They blend right in and you barely notice they are even under there, doesn't change the look barely at all. Just those two items added pushed the off road ability up to just how I wanted it, all the best off road drivetrain and air suspension stuff you can get on GC is already standard on summit so no additional wants or needs in that area.
You got any pictures of the changes you made in the front I always like to see improvements people make.
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yeah I agree you can do things to increase approach angle on summit. The lower air dam does come off I took it off to put the hooks on. It doesn't come off as easy as the overland's though it takes longer to pop those 16 clips on summit. I just did the skid plates and hooks because it didn't take much time and was fairly low cost and also kept the aesthetics of the summit in place. skid plates you don't see and tow hooks stick out just enough to get a D ring around them and are black just like the lower grill. They blend right in and you barely notice they are even under there, doesn't change the look barely at all. Just those two items added pushed the off road ability up to just how I wanted it, all the best off road drivetrain and air suspension stuff you can get on GC is already standard on summit so no additional wants or needs in that area.
You got any pictures of the changes you made in the front I always like to see improvements people make.
Yeah, I can post some pictures but it is still in progress and looks pretty rough right now. I haven't finished cutting out for the winch and haven't put on the brush bar and i still have a few things to do on the prerunner that i cut for my acc sensor. Like I said i am doing the mods at my Mom & Dad's house on the weekends (he has way more tools than i do) and they live about an hour and a half away from me so when we weren't finished at 8:30 on Sunday night i had to just put things back together as fast as I could so I could drive home. :-(
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