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Re: Paddle Shifters - Hate 'em

Here is my opinion. On the 14 SRT the gears are so short and there is good power I feel like I am double and triple clicking a mouse all the time

The shifts are too frequent and I always hit the limiter on the 1-2. The tach in the SRT Is WAYYYYY too small to be able to pay attention to what rpm you are at and rip through the gears properly. I wish there was a shift light, a heads up display, or a big glowing "SRT" on the speedo when redline hit. Similiar to what the viper does.

Dissapointed with the manual shifting experience.
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Wait....if you tap one of the shift paddles, the trans will automatically go into manual shift mode? Okay, didn't know that. So if it happens by accident, what's the quickest way to get it out of manual shift mode? Tap the shifter?
There is no "manual shift mode". The paddle shifters are limiters. That means that if you down shift to 4th gear then the trans will go no higher than 4th gear. It will use 1 thru 4 until you either upshift or hold the shifter for a couple of seconds to return the trans to normal.
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Old 10-15-2013, 08:17 AM
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Re: Paddle Shifters - Hate 'em

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There is no "manual shift mode". The paddle shifters are limiters. That means that if you down shift to 4th gear then the trans will go no higher than 4th gear. It will use 1 thru 4 until you either upshift or hold the shifter for a couple of seconds to return the trans to normal.
I believe it depends on whether you are in drive or sport mode.


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Re: Paddle Shifters - Hate 'em

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Well, I love 'em!
If you remove/disable them you won't be able to change hill descent-ascent control speed.
You don't need to permanently disable them.

Like perhaps if you pull on both paddles for 2 seconds it would shut off. And same to turn on. To avoid accidental hits.
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Re: Paddle Shifters - Hate 'em

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There is no "manual shift mode". The paddle shifters are limiters. That means that if you down shift to 4th gear then the trans will go no higher than 4th gear. It will use 1 thru 4 until you either upshift or hold the shifter for a couple of seconds to return the trans to normal.
What? That makes no sense. When you shift via the paddles, the transmission will shift gears, right? In other words, whether upshifting or downshifting with the paddles, the transmission responds accordingly, no? That's a manual shift mode.
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What? That makes no sense. When you shift via the paddles, the transmission will shift gears, right? In other words, whether upshifting or downshifting with the paddles, the transmission responds accordingly, no? That's a manual shift mode.
I agree. They are manual shift points. It won't let you break the engine transmission by ramming it, into 1st at 70mph. It won't let you be in 8th going 5MPH wither. Or let you stay in 1st to 8000 RPM. But it has a pretty wide range of gears/speeds of when YOU want to shift.
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yup, not "limiters" they will shift up or down on demand, and wont shift otherwise unless the computer tells it that it could cause damage, and thats most down shifts...
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Re: Paddle Shifters - Hate 'em

Seems to me that the best way to disable the shifters is to not touch them. Not to be particularly snarky here, but you gotta reach for the paddles in order to activate them. I have never come close to touching either shifter without making a defined effort to gear up or down.

But, there is one circumstance where the paddles don't function as I would want them to. Taking off on 1st from a stop sign with either an immediate right or left 90 degree turn; kinda hard to hit 2nd gear while the steering wheel is spinning.
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Seems to me that the best way to disable the shifters is to not touch them. Not to be particularly snarky here, but you gotta reach for the paddles in order to activate them. I have never come close to touching either shifter without making a defined effort to gear up or down. But, there is one circumstance where the paddles don't function as I would want them to. Taking off on 1st from a stop sign with either an immediate right or left 90 degree turn; kinda hard to hit 2nd gear while the steering wheel is spinning.


i thought the same thing about turning and shifting.

when i first bought mine i hit it twice on accident and my wife has as well. but since then no more accidents. just wasn't use to the shifters.
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I have no use for them on my '14 Overland. I've bumped them accidentally on two occasions. Once, in heavy 4 lane traffic when I wanted to accelerate and was momentarily stuck in 8th gear, so there was no acceleration. The second time was pulling out into traffic from a stop and it was stuck in first and revved nearly to red line. Embarrassing.

Before you tell me to learn to drive, my other car is a supercharged manual 6-speed '04 GTO. I just have no use for paddle shifters on my Jeep.

Does anyone know of a way to disable the paddles? My wife is afraid of it happening to her. Can I pull a fuse?
I'm trying to imagine the size of hand it would take to accidentally bump the paddles.
Even more so to bump them into 8th, which is actually not that easy to get into on purpose unless you are at or near 7.

If you practice using them, when you want to speed up to pass, use the paddles to drop a gear or two and hold it until you want to upshift.

.... practice on a Ferrari?
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Wait....if you tap one of the shift paddles, the trans will automatically go into manual shift mode? Okay, didn't know that. So if it happens by accident, what's the quickest way to get it out of manual shift mode? Tap the shifter?
Although not the quickest, Reading The Fine Manual would be the most reliable.

Just pull the + side paddle and hold it for a bit and it returns to auto mode.
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Re: Paddle Shifters - Hate 'em

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I'm trying to imagine the size of hand it would take to accidentally bump the paddles.
Even more so to bump them into 8th, which is actually not that easy to get into on purpose unless you are at or near 7.

If you practice using them, when you want to speed up to pass, use the paddles to drop a gear or two and hold it until you want to upshift.

.... practice on a Ferrari?
Just average size hands. Autos ought to downshift on their own just fine.

Like I said, I was in heavy traffic (loop around Indianapolis), probably doing 55 mph. Going up an incline and trying to get around a slow truck, I did several head-checks before attempting to make a lane-change and accelerate around it. Somewhere in the process I bumped the paddle which put the Jeep in 8th gear. It seemed to actually slow down when I pushed down on the gas pedal.

Being new to the vehicle and not realizing what had happened for several seconds, I thought there was something wrong with it and began to contemplate where to pull off if it died.

I've been driving for about 45 years, have owned many manual transmission cars and done some competitive driving. Haven't had an accident in the last 40. I just don't like paddle shifters on an SUV. To me it's boy-racer "cool". Now, on an SRT, ...maybe.
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