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Re: Paddle shifters, just a novelty or useful tool?

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Flappy paddles are useful in a F1 car where you can barely move your arms, need total road concentration, and 60 degrees of wheel input is A Lot so hands never move.

On a GC they just mean the six buttons for the entertainment system on the back of the '11-'13 wheel had to move "elsewhere".

On a mountain road I have no problem slapping the shifter so the paddles would be as useful as the steering column buttons on a '59 Edsel.

Just for S&G how about a lever for the left knee ? It's just a brace for most.
Flappy Paddles. LOL. Jeremy Clarkson's voice immediately entered my head.

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Re: Paddle shifters, just a novelty or useful tool?

I used the F1 style gearbox on both an E90 M3 and a 2010 AUDI S4. When mated to the proper gearbox, they are the choice. And if I were to buy an S4 or M3 right now, it would have to be with this type of transmission implements. Manual Gearboxes - an automotive icon that should be in the history books. LOL - and my Subaru is manual.
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Re: Paddle shifters, just a novelty or useful tool?

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On a GC they just mean the six buttons for the entertainment system on the back of the '11-'13 wheel had to move "elsewhere".
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I thought the radio controls were still on the backside of the steering wheel? If not, where did they move to?
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Re: Paddle shifters, just a novelty or useful tool?

The buttons are still on the back of the wheel. I think they just had to reposition them.



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Re: Paddle shifters, just a novelty or useful tool?

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The buttons are still on the back of the wheel. I think they just had to reposition them.
Glad to hear it. Made me nervous there for a few minutes. I think Chrysler is the only manufacturer who places those stereo controls in the most logical location. Everyone else has them on the front of the wheel.
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Re: Paddle shifters, just a novelty or useful tool?

Having driven many Porsches and couple of Ferraris, I have to say that the paddle shifters that you have on most regular cars, Jeep included, are just a novelty. Mostly, I think, it all comes down to the kind of tranny you have. The Porsche Doppelkupplung (PDK) is one amazing transmission and shifts are super fast and having a paddle shifter is really nice. That said, I still like having the "man" pedal. I still have not driven the new Porsche's "7-Speed" manual yet. Maybe this summer....

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Re: Paddle shifters, just a novelty or useful tool?

That is interesting, page 329 of the '14 OM shows the six buttons on the back but an curious if the flappy paddles block. Doesn't seem to be any picture of the paddles.

Hope the 7 speed has a ratchet shifter, anything over 5+R is real easy to hit the rong gate.
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Re: Paddle shifters, just a novelty or useful tool?

I enjoy a selectable transmission (either flippy paddles, slap shift, tiptronic) for fun & spirited driving as well as towing. However, most cars <$100,000 that have them seem to be an automatic transmission with the ability to mimic it. They don't shift well. They dont shift fast enough. They dont rev match well. However, I prefer having the option for the reasons listed. All that said, you really need a tranny designed for it and software to compliment it. In the right application they are a blast to drive or ride! My most recent experience is on a Honda VFR motorcycle. It actually keeps 2 gears engaged at once with power going to one of them. That way, the next gear is already spinning at the right speed when you hit the button. The acceleration is almost linear and seamless.
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Re: Paddle shifters, just a novelty or useful tool?

As others have said, it depends on the vehicle.

Some automatics (we're talking standard automatics here) work well with paddles, AMGs for instance, and also the 7 speed that Nissan uses in the 370Z. Paddles with a DSG style gearbox beat down normal manual in every way (except some people like holding a throbbing rod in their hands, to each their own).

We have them in our Outlander, and while they work well, they're more decorative than useful. Reality is, they're fun to play with once or twice in the first week or two, then you quit caring and forget they're there. And that's on an ostensibly "sporty" CUV. On something like the GC, it's merely adding something that looks nice on a spec sheet so some sales guy can do his thing on some customers out there.
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Re: Paddle shifters, just a novelty or useful tool?

Think the console mounted transmission slap stick works better than the paddles.
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Re: Paddle shifters, just a novelty or useful tool?

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My wife's Malibu has paddle shifters. The problem with them is that as you make a turn the paddles become impossible to operate until the wheel comes back to the normal driving position. I like the downshift control of the transmission stick much better. It is always right there when you want to use it, not upside down or at some awkward position. Just my opinion.
Sounds like your Malibu had paddle shifts mounted on the steering column and not the actual steering wheel.

The 2014 paddle shifters are mounted on the Steering Wheel and turn with it. So they can be operated when turning and are always where they should be (in relation to the steering wheel).
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