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Re: Paddle Shifters (slowing down)

Which is steeper, Pike's Peak or Sonora Pass? I've done both but Pike's Peak was only open to about 11,000' earlier this year, the one and only time I did it - the top was still snowed in, back in March. I've done Sonora Pass several times, and especially in the eastbound direction that's a good drop, I think that is a steeper, longer drop.

I'll be crossing Sonora Pass tomorrow, twice. I need to do a round trip to Rainbow Falls and back to San Francisco. I leave at 0500. I will definitely be using the paddle shifters.

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Old 07-25-2016, 12:19 AM
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Re: Paddle Shifters (slowing down)

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Which is steeper, Pike's Peak or Sonora Pass? I've done both but Pike's Peak was only open to about 11,000' earlier this year, the one and only time I did it - the top was still snowed in, back in March. I've done Sonora Pass several times, and especially in the eastbound direction that's a good drop, I think that is a steeper, longer drop.

I'll be crossing Sonora Pass tomorrow, twice. I need to do a round trip to Rainbow Falls and back to San Francisco. I leave at 0500. I will definitely be using the paddle shifters.
I've only done Pike's Peak in SUV's with manual transmissions. Generally kept it 3rd, downshifting to 2nd a few times. First time was in a 1997 Bronco U150 with a 4 speed (first was a granny) and second time was a 1986 4Runner with a 5 speed.
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Old 07-25-2016, 12:32 AM
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I've only done Pike's Peak in SUV's with manual transmissions. Generally kept it 3rd, downshifting to 2nd a few times. First time was in a 1997 Bronco U150 with a 4 speed (first was a granny) and second time was a 1986 4Runner with a 5 speed.
I remember a few places where Pike's Peak was steep, but not many, and not long stretches. It has been a few years since I did Sonora Pass so my memory might be hazy. I'll find out tomorrow.
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Old 07-25-2016, 01:02 AM
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That would defeat part of the reason for having CC if it couldn't maintain speed properly.

On my non-ACC Jeep, it absolutely uses engine braking to maintain speed going down hill.

In fact, even without CC being active, it will occasionally use a lower gear if it senses it's gaining speed on a downhill descent when I let off the gas.
My cruise control will eventually slow down on a long hill. What I notice on mine is the loose tolerance of my CC. There seems to be about 2.5+/- tolerance, greater than any other vehicle I have owned. It may drop up to 2 or 3 mph below set speed going up hill, then increase up to 2 or 3 mph above set speed going down hill.
Is this common? It could get me a ticket.
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Old 07-25-2016, 10:02 AM
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..... It may drop up to 2 or 3 mph below set speed going up hill, then increase up to 2 or 3 mph above set speed going down hill.
Is this common? It could get me a ticket.
No, actually it won't get you a ticket if you set your cruise at the speed limit. If you try to play the game of "they'll give me ___mph over the limit so I'll set it 1 mph below that", then absolutely it could. Why take the chance on pushing a cushion though? Just set the cruise at the speed limit and you don't have to worry about it.
Couple reasons for that.
1, not every cop gives the same cushion.
2, our speedometers are not certified accurate (though they seem to be pretty close), so you may be going a few mph faster than you intended to be (which could put you over the cushion).
3, you don't save that much time by going a few mph faster. Lets say you drive 30 miles to work (the average commute in the US). I'm assuming no traffic, no signals, and no surface streets for easy math. If you set the cruise at 65 mph you'll get to work in 27 minutes. If you set your cruise at 74 for 9 mph over (making the assumption that cops in your are will "give you" 10), you'll get to work in 24 minutes. You'll save a whopping 3 minutes by driving 9 mph faster on a 30 mile commute. That's assuming you can drive 9 mph faster for that entire 30 miles, with no traffic or anything causing you to slow down to the speed limit or less. Just doesn't seem worth the risk of a $100+ ticket to me.
So, as I said, just set the cruise at the posted limit, and if it drifts 2 mph (or even 3 mph) while going down a hill you don't have to worry about it.

Just my opinion on it though, take it for what it's worth.
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Old 07-25-2016, 10:08 AM
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Math for above example (T=d/S):
30 miles / 65 mph = .46 hours ----------- .46 hours x 60 minutes = 27 minute commute
30 miles / 74 mph = .40 hours ----------- .40 hours x 60 minutes = 24 minute commute
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Old 07-25-2016, 12:37 PM
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Math for above example (T=d/S):
30 miles / 65 mph = .46 hours ----------- .46 hours x 60 minutes = 27 minute commute
30 miles / 74 mph = .40 hours ----------- .40 hours x 60 minutes = 24 minute commute
It's even worse in town.

I love it when I see a guy jackrabbit off from a light and race down the road, only to get stopped at the next light. I then come rolling up as the light turns green, not even having to stop.

The other guy then takes off like a shot again, only for us to repeat the whole thing again. A few times, that other guy has been a co-worker and we literally rolled up to the gate at work one right after another.

The relaxed ride gives me time to wonder just how much more the other guy spends on gas, tires and brakes over the life of the vehicle.

I'm no grandma behind the wheel, but I'm old enough to know better than to try to drag race my way to work.
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Old 07-25-2016, 12:55 PM
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Good points. I usually set mine five miles over the posted limit so I should be good most of the time if the cruise takes me up to eight over and that's just downhill. I also start slow and coast up to the lights. I live out in the country but I've noticed the same thing that Networktv has except these are guys that pass me on blind hills and curves with the double solid line putting all our lives in jeopardy then ten miles later I pull up right behind him at the redlight. Pulling up beside somebody out here means driving in the ditch. lol. Two lane highways that twist and turn up and down hills and there's no passing lane.
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You set your cruise to the speed limit in Georgia and you risk getting rear-ended.
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You set your cruise to the speed limit in Georgia and you risk getting rear-ended.
That's where most of my driving is. I live a quarter mile on the Alabama side of the line and my wife and I both work, shop and have family in Ga.

I'd rather drive in Atlanta than these little two lanes. Every couple years we get a little one inch snow and people go crazy and start driving like they've entered the demolition derby and instead of prize money, the winner gets an autographed picture of Richard Petty. No ice trucks, plows, or gravel trucks out here the entire region just shuts down for two days till its gone.
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Ha. You've obviously never been in ATL when we get a little snow. Or a prediction of a little snow.
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Ha. You've obviously never been in ATL when we get a little snow. Or a prediction of a little snow.
I recall returning from Viet Nam and going home to pick up my wife in Cincinnati from where we drove to my next duty station in Columbia, SC. I was driving a brand new 1972 Dodge Dart in heavy snow through the mountains and it eased up to less than an inch in SC where we got pulled over by the state patrol telling us the roads were closed due to heavy snow. It just looked like a dusting back home.
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