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Positioning jack stands on the WK2

I am preparing to rotate my tires on my WK2 for the first time. I understand the forward jack point is literally on the pinch weld and that I should probably modify a hockey puck to use my floor jack on said weld. However, what isn't clear to me is where to position the jack stands. If I am jacking on the forward pinch weld, do I place the jack stand somewhere near the pinch weld? If so, I guess I should make another hockey puck adapter for the jack stand to use.

I am aware of the WK2 - JACKING AND HOISTING LIFT POINTS directions, but that doesn't clarify where I should place the jack stands if the jack point is occupied with the jack. I found this nice post, but it doesn't show the actual position of the forward jack stand's contact with the vehicle.

Perhaps the answer is obvious, but I would rather look stupid by asking a dumb question than to possibly unsafely support the vehicle with the jack stands due to an incorrect assumption.
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Old 05-03-2014, 02:04 PM
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Re: Positioning jack stands on the WK2

On my truck I position the stand on the frame. I don't have the Jeep here to look but would assume there should be an appropriate portion of frame available for use.
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Re: Positioning jack stands on the WK2

I always jack it up under the suspension (lower control arms) unless I'm working on suspension (which is extremely rare). I had to get another jack to get it in there though (single wheel) because you have to be pretty close to the wheel. I don't like torqueing the body so much when you jack it up under the body and you have to jack it up so damn high to get the wheel off. Once I contact the control arm it's like two pumps and one inch and I can take the wheel off. Truck doesn't even look jacked up.
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Once I contact the control arm it's like two pumps and one inch and I can take the wheel off. Truck doesn't even look jacked up.
This is an intriguing concept. I just need to get a jack stand in there while I'm at it.

I'll have to investigate.
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Re: Positioning jack stands on the WK2

From the owners manual.
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Re: Positioning jack stands on the WK2

The problem with using pinch weld areas to jack the vehicle is that you can't set a stand under the same place that you jacked, so you can only have one wheel off at a time. So what I do is jack the front from the center of the K subframe (there is the tail end of the plastic splash shield covering this point, but it can be safely jacked without destroying the shield), then support the entire front with a stand on either side.

I jack the rear on the center of the rear subframe, just behind the differential.

On the WK2 there are subframes at both front and rear. They are very strong where these are bolted to the body, so that's where I position stands. Or I use the pinch welds.
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Re: Positioning jack stands on the WK2

Sorry to be a debbie downer but you cannot rotate tires "properly" using jack stands unless you are setting the whole vehicle on stands, are you?
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Re: Positioning jack stands on the WK2

I was thinking about getting two of these all-in-one jack and jack stand. You could properly rotate the tires with two stands but it would be a 3 step process, doing one side at a time then lift the front to swap them across.

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Re: Positioning jack stands on the WK2

ah, yes, that would work. If the spare were only on the same rim style we could just throw it into the loop and jack problem solved...at least until you bought new tires and then your spare would be different....I just hate wasting the 1 hour and $20 at the local shop since I do my own oil and basic maintenance, it add's up to buying an extra tire each set, ya know?
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Re: Positioning jack stands on the WK2

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Sorry to be a debbie downer but you cannot rotate tires "properly" using jack stands unless you are setting the whole vehicle on stands, are you?
All you need is one rolling jack and two stands.
1. Loosen all lug nuts.
2. Jack the front and set it on stands.
3. Jack the back.
4. Rotate tires.
5. Lower the back.
6. Jack the front, remove the jacks, then lower and remove the jack.
7. Torque all lug nuts and check air pressure.

Technically you are not under the car, so it is considered safe to rotate tires with one end supported by a hydraulic jack.
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Re: Positioning jack stands on the WK2

eh, you'd have to jack each back side separate which isn't all that stable unless I'm missing something.

Also, where r u placing front stands? Under lower control arm mount? I hate those front pinch weld lift points...
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Sorry to be a debbie downer but you cannot rotate tires "properly" using jack stands unless you are setting the whole vehicle on stands, are you?
As far as I understand it, the X-pattern rotation is acceptable for four-wheel rotation on a 4wd. Thus, only two jack stands are required (on diagonal points of the vehicle).
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