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Re: Potential JGC Buyer.. Are they really that bad?

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60000 relatively trouble free miles on mine. #2 Fuel injector failed under the 3/36 warranty, couple of free flashes for the DTCM to improve shifting and some other firmware revisions then the fuel pump relay recall. Couldn't love the Jeep more.
Any car nowadays will have several software/ firmware updates after you buy it.
Be happy we don't have the MS Sync like Ford does. Talk about fail. My old company car had it.
To the OP: You have a small, make that very small, slice of the customer base here. Add that to the fact that more people join forums to air complaints than join to lay praise. Good luck on your decision.
I had Sync on a rental last year, actually. It died shortly after I picked it up. I couldn't even control the heat on the car with it down, it's that integrated. The screen worked, and I could tap the settings button, but that was it. No way to "reboot" it either, short of pulling the battery which may or may not have worked and I wasn't going to fool with it.

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Old 03-30-2016, 07:34 AM
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That may be the perception,but my dealer highly advised not to buy a 2wd model. He said resale is worse than terrible on 2wd... Jeep and 4x4 are synonymous. Said would get even less at sale or trade in as they can hardly move 2wd Jeeps. But I am in the snowy Midwest....may not be as true in Fl or southern CA.


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I would submit that if you buy a vehicle based on resale value rather than what you want or need, you're probably doing it wrong.

I buy a vehicle that I'll want for many years so I can pay it off and own it free and clear but still be happy owning it. By the time I trade, the value is pretty much irrelevant.

The same goes for houses, too. Unless you're in the business of flipping them you should be buying a home to live in, not a house you plan to sell at some point.

What adds value down the road in either case is how you maintain and care for it. With both houses and vehicles, proper maintenance and cosmetic care are what provide resale value.

Just like with houses, tastes change in what people want in a vehicle. What's popular today might be undesirable 5,7 or 10 years from now.

On the other hand, an otherwise unremarkable car like the DeLorean is highly valuable due to the antics of the company founder and the popularity of a certain movie franchise.
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Old 03-30-2016, 09:41 AM
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Re: Potential JGC Buyer.. Are they really that bad?

I agree with you in general, Net', but there are always opportunities to make decisions that not only support one's needs (real or imagined) as well as potentially provide better financial results in the future and that applies to both vehicles and real estate. It's a balance. For vehicles, certain things to tend to be beneficial down the road, but they are also geographically influenced. While almost nobody will blink at a 2WD JGC in Florida or Texas, it will raise the hairy eyeball farther north, for sure, including for resale value. With the cost difference not too substantial, someone might hedge their bet that the general market might be friendlier to the 4x4 in the long term.

But yea...taking care of your property, regardless of type, is also important for sure!
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I would submit that if you buy a vehicle based on resale value rather than what you want or need, you're probably doing it wrong.

I buy a vehicle that I'll want for many years so I can pay it off and own it free and clear but still be happy owning it. By the time I trade, the value is pretty much irrelevant.

The same goes for houses, too. Unless you're in the business of flipping them you should be buying a home to live in, not a house you plan to sell at some point.

What adds value down the road in either case is how you maintain and care for it. With both houses and vehicles, proper maintenance and cosmetic care are what provide resale value.

Just like with houses, tastes change in what people want in a vehicle. What's popular today might be undesirable 5,7 or 10 years from now.

On the other hand, an otherwise unremarkable car like the DeLorean is highly valuable due to the antics of the company founder and the popularity of a certain movie franchise.


No, actually I did buy exactly what I wanted, but with a little sage advice in mind. I really didn't need 4wd either. Have a 2500 Cummins 4wd Ram for that......Buying a 4wd Ecodiesel is almost proof of that... I bought it because I wanted it, not because it was the best fiscally.

I Pay cash for my vehicles, and keep them as long as I like them, but in the northern tier, 4wd is expected in the SUV crossover market....especially with the jeep brand. The initial cost is minimally more...(Hey what's a few thousand after you get to 55k?)

The Kelly bluebook difference on a 2 Wheel Drive versus four-wheel-drive vehicle identically equipped Summit even in Florida is over 5000.00 for the model year 2014. So even with depreciation it is still a smart buy. The difference in the Midwest/northeast is even higher!

It would be interesting to know the ratio of 2wd vs 4wd wk2's produced annually ....?


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Re: Potential JGC Buyer.. Are they really that bad?

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^ 100x this comment. For all the things Jeep does right, its service departments are where it is most lacking. Getting a rental from them is damn near impossible. I recently got one (long story, theres a thread related to it) but even then it required me going to an off property Enterprise to pick it up.

The good news is, hopefully you wont be spending enough time in the service bay to care about this portion.

That's why I leased mine because they will provide a rental car without me having to buy an extended warranty.


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That's why I leased mine because they will provide a rental car without me having to buy an extended warranty.
Wow... is that written into your lease agreement?
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Wow... is that written into your lease agreement?

Actually it is written with my lease company.


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Actually it is written with my lease company.
You're lucky, that's not the norm.
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You're lucky, that's not the norm.

I'm sure I'm paying for it.


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Prior to getting my High Altitude in November'15, I read lots of pros and cons. Regardless, after renting a few over the past couple of years, I totally fell in love with it. I got the 4x4 even though I'm in So. Florida for the QL air suspension. Entry/Exit mode truly improves life. Also, I couldn't see having a Jeep that isn't 4x4. Just doesn't seem natural. I imagine it would add to resale but that's just a bonus. After almost 7k miles, I one if the lucky ones. Not a single issue to bring it in for. While there isn't any car out there that will satisfy 100% of one's desires, this comes as close as any I've ever owned. I've had muscle cars in the 60's, VWs, an early Monte Carlo, Audi, Saab, LEXUS, MB, Infiniti, etc. My 2915 HA, is truly a great vehicle. No regrets here. I'll take care of it for a few years and unless some other mfr surprises with some magic, I'll upgrade to a new one with Car Play and other newer tech on a 2018 or 19 Grand Cherokee.


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I got the 4x4 even though I'm in So. Florida
You need 4x4 when it rains in Florida, I was driving in Florida once and I was stunned that much water could fall out of the sky damn.
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You need 4x4 when it rains in Florida, I was driving in Florida once and I was stunned that much water could fall out of the sky damn.
As a matter of fact, with the torrential rains the past couple of weeks, I've come across lots of deep standing water that would have blocked passage by lesser men. I smiled, pressed "UP" to OR1 and OR2 (though I doubt I needed OR2) and carefully proceeded. Wow! How cool is that?
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