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Re: Problems to look for when buying a used 2014 Overland

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Actually I think your both right.
Also they updated radio somewhere along the way.
Pretty sure radio hardware did not change 'til MY15. I know the 8.4A/NA changed MY14 to MY15 but I think it was only software updates within MY14.

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Re: Problems to look for when buying a used 2014 Overland

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July 22, 2013 is the last build date with the ACC that does not have stop-n-go so if this feature is important you need a build date of July 23, 2013 or later. The Built Date is month and year it rolled off line and is in upper left of sticker on inside of driver door edge. The actual day that "sets" the features is the MMDDHH in the lower right corner of same sticker. The HH is the hour in military time.

If buying from a dealer have them print out the STAR history, if any, on the VIN which will identify problems elevated to the STAR tech center. As others have said, no vehicle is perfect but the later in the build run the better. They were built late Jan '13 thru late July '14.

Regarding the trannies. It's probably about 3 (V6) to 1 (V8/Diesel) for problem ratio but I truly believe overall tranny problems are very much in the minority of all Jeep owners' experiences. Keep in mind, we forum folks are the vocal ones. Forums are a generally negatively skewed viewed on quantity of problems, IMHO. That said, if you were on the fence between a V6 and a V8/Diesel then I personally would give the V8/Diesel an extra vote per se due to the fewer issues reported. The issue is that while the ZF 8HP70 in the V8/Diesel is 100% non-modified mechanically for or by Chrysler from ZF the 845RE is actually the ZF 8HP45 that is manufactured by Chrysler under license from ZF BUT mechanically modified by Chrysler to "better handle our torque requirements...". Both have Chrysler created programming for the application, which is why there are "re-flash" TSB's etc.. to address reported problems, but with the V6 845RE being the only one that has been mechanically modified by Chrysler AND it being the one getting more complaints it stands to reason that the mechanical mods have something to do with it. Just my 20 cents.

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Once we got past the tranny issues on the V6, which were quite real and wide spread and 99% firmware. And the xmas tree issue. Which I'm not sure effected V8's. I tend to see more issues with V8's and Diesel's than the V6.

Likewise, it might be that Diesel and V8 owners are more vocal than V6 owners
Also to be fair the Diesel is a new Drive Train and going through it's teething pains.
V8 has no excuse. Probably won't exist in 2016.

Except for Tranny Firmware, my Limited V6 was fantastic. Enough so, I didn't hesitate to buy the same drive train in Overland Clothing.

There have been Quadra Lift issues, Squeaks, Leaks, Wheel Shimmy, Panel Alignment that effected them all.
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Re: Problems to look for when buying a used 2014 Overland

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The leather dash is worth a closer look.
Anything in particular I should look for? General wear and tears?
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Re: Problems to look for when buying a used 2014 Overland

Oh, there's been a few replaced due to bubbling and also splitting at the seams where the instrument binnacle is. It's a big job to replace, and whilst it should fall under warranty, you might not like having that much of your new ride disassembled.

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Re: Problems to look for when buying a used 2014 Overland

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Oh, there's been a few replaced due to bubbling and also splitting at the seams where the instrument binnacle is. It's a big job to replace, and whilst it should fall under warranty, you might not like having that much of your new ride disassembled.

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Re: Problems to look for when buying a used 2014 Overland

I had the plastic dash in my limited and now leather in Overland.

I prefer the plastic.

I looks sharp and all.

But reflection of stitching in windshield is distracting (especially white stitch on black).
With plastic you don't have to worry about seams, bubbling, stitching reflection.
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But reflection of stitching in windshield is distracting (especially white stitch on black)....
Polarized sun glasses = zero glare
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Re: Problems to look for when buying a used 2014 Overland

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Polarized sun glasses = zero glare
Which can make Phones (which I frequently have mounted) and LCD screens harder to read. I'd rather have the stitch reflection.

I might take a black sharpie to the Stitching.
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Re: Problems to look for when buying a used 2014 Overland

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Which can make Phones (which I frequently have mounted) and LCD screens harder to read. I'd rather have the stitch reflection.

I might take a black sharpie to the Stitching.
I hear ya but that reflection is a headache on a stick with all the windshield time I put in. The upside of Jeep being behind the times with the low tech, low-rez, lcd screen is it's largely unaffected by them. Now my HTC, can't see it.
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I hear ya but that reflection is a headache on a stick with all the windshield time I put in. The upside of Jeep being behind the times with the low tech, low-rez, lcd screen is it's largely unaffected by them. Now my HTC, can't see it.
I have an HTC too, M8.
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Re: Problems to look for when buying a used 2014 Overland

There are multiple software flashes and tsbs, the ones that would apply depend on the build date which is on the door sticker.

Some of us have pre-Aug builds with pretty much none of the problems that seem to plague others.

The V8 8-speed should be quite smooth, almost undetectable under moderate accel.
Low speed funny bumps in the drivetrain go away with a couple TSB flashes.

Make sure that the back up camera is clear, no jitter, no funny displays. Wipe the sensor with a handiwipe or similar and then dry it so it is clean, but then you should get a very clear picture similar to the built in on a laptop.

Some folks are reporting wear on the leather seats, problems with the leather dash coming loose, others don't see it.

The gas filler door seems to be a problem for several owners, poor fit, etc. Others no problem.

I'd strongly recommend sticking to the ones where you can get a full Mopar warranty, as the electronic gewgaws are quite expensive to fix, and any repairs to the hemi itself would require trading in a Honda or similar to fund.

If it has already had the right passenger mirror recall and the brake booster recall, that would be good to have out of the way.

The early 2013 units often had a ground bolt that was loose, which could lead to a really strange XMAS tree effect on the instrument panel display.
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Re: Problems to look for when buying a used 2014 Overland

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There are multiple software flashes and tsbs, the ones that would apply depend on the build date which is on the door sticker.

Some of us have pre-Aug builds with pretty much none of the problems that seem to plague others.

The V8 8-speed should be quite smooth, almost undetectable under moderate accel.
Low speed funny bumps in the drivetrain go away with a couple TSB flashes.

Make sure that the back up camera is clear, no jitter, no funny displays. Wipe the sensor with a handiwipe or similar and then dry it so it is clean, but then you should get a very clear picture similar to the built in on a laptop.

Some folks are reporting wear on the leather seats, problems with the leather dash coming loose, others don't see it.

The gas filler door seems to be a problem for several owners, poor fit, etc. Others no problem.

I'd strongly recommend sticking to the ones where you can get a full Mopar warranty, as the electronic gewgaws are quite expensive to fix, and any repairs to the hemi itself would require trading in a Honda or similar to fund.

If it has already had the right passenger mirror recall and the brake booster recall, that would be good to have out of the way.

The early 2013 units often had a ground bolt that was loose, which could lead to a really strange XMAS tree effect on the instrument panel display.
Good point on getting one young enough to add Factory Warranties.

The XMAS tree problem was due to a Faulty ABS Module in early 2013 Models. Early on, that was the fix to replace the ABS Module. They eventually worked around the Faulty ABS Module with a HUGE Firmware update, and that didn't always go very smooth. For some customers they "bricked" the Instrument Cluster and had to have it replaced.

I don't think it was ever a grounding issue that was the root cause of XMAS tree issues. Otherwise they never would have released the huge firmware patch. But it was an issue that should be fixed.


The camera Jitter thing seems to be a problem around flashing. Some folks just reflashed the same firmware again and resolved it. Others flashed working firmware (for others) didn't have the issue and then did. I suspect during the flash, it must do a calibration or something on the camera. Or try to detect the camera type and get it wrong and set some parameter wrong.
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