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When I test drove before buying, I had to air down the Overland with QL. It was 42-44 psi from the factory, which I understand is not unusual, and bounced all over the place. After getting the psi adjusted, it rode, and handled, much nicer than a limited without QL. After over three years of ownership I'm very happy with QL, and would definitely have it on my next Jeep. Don't tell my wife I said next Jeep, she doesn't know I'm looking.
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Re: Quadra Lift ride Quality

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When I test drove before buying, I had to air down the Overland with QL. It was 42-44 psi from the factory, which I understand is not unusual, and bounced all over the place. After getting the psi adjusted, it rode, and handled, much nicer than a limited without QL. After over three years of ownership I'm very happy with QL, and would definitely have it on my next Jeep. Don't tell my wife I said next Jeep, she doesn't know I'm looking.
That's a good point. I've had them delivered that way too.
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Old 08-31-2016, 08:23 AM
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Re: Quadra Lift ride Quality

I definitely prefer the QL on my '16 to the normal suspension I had on my '14 - the wife likes it too, easier to get to the car seat with it down in park. Rides better, corners better.

That said, mine was in the shop for a week and I had a Ram 1500 as a rental, normal suspension. Bounced around alot, wasn't too fond of it, but I liked the truck. Dealer hooked me up with an overnight in a Ram 1500 Limited with the air suspension since I've been eyeballing a Ram now...holy sh*t what a massive difference. Rides VERY nice, lowers down for the short folks (and wifes loading car seats...) and when you raise it up into OR-II, it's like standing next to a Kenworth lol. I've definitely got my eye on one, but doesn't make sense yet to trade in the 5 month old Jeep
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Re: Quadra Lift ride Quality

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Wow! I test drove 2016 a high altitude with the air ride and hated it. It was so bouncy and almost felt uncontrolled. I drove over a speed bump at low speeds (5 mph) and I swear it hit the bump stops. I saw no benefit of the air suspension.

It probably was due to over inflated tires on your test vehicle. A common practice by manufacturers as the vehicles sit on dealer lots for months. When I picked up my GC, the drive back home was very bouncy and hard and I second guessed my decision to buy air suspension. However, next day I noticed that my tires were inflated to 45 psi. I lowered it to down to 33-35 psi and the ride has been smooth since then.
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Re: Quadra Lift ride Quality

QL is generally a very comfortable ride and the flexibility it gives with height adjustment can be nice at certain times. As others have noted, however, tire choice and inflation can make a difference. And folks who like a little less "roll" can put a stiffer sway bar on to adjust the feel, too.
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Re: Quadra Lift ride Quality

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It probably was due to over inflated tires on your test vehicle. A common practice by manufacturers as the vehicles sit on dealer lots for months. When I picked up my GC, the drive back home was very bouncy and hard and I second guessed my decision to buy air suspension. However, next day I noticed that my tires were inflated to 45 psi. I lowered it to down to 33-35 psi and the ride has been smooth since then.
Let me clarify, I drove 2 different versions with the air ride and hated both. One was a diesel 4x4 and the other was a Hemi 4x4. When I said "bouncy" I didn't mean it was hard or stiff.....it was just the opposite. Both felt under so dampened I actually asked the sales guy if it was broken......that's why I asked to drive a second GC. I actually find it hard to believe that anyone likes how they ride. I'd much rather have the magnetic shocks like the Cadillac and other mfg. use (not sure if it's used on SUV though).

Air ride seems pretty gimmicky to me but I was interested. The standard coil and shock setup was much more planted and controlled all situations.....the air ride feels disconnected and detached from the road. It floats around like a caddy from the 70's. I do like that the air ride will lower at speed to help with aerodynamics but that's about the only good thing I could say.

I bought a 2016 75th anniversary Limited with the std. Suspension.....it also came with the tires over inflated. Once dropped them to the correct psi it rides better than the air ride......well to me atleast. I can see I'm the minority here but I am a car guy that prefers taut communicative suspensions that I've had on many sports cars and sport sedans.

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Once dropped them to the correct psi it rides better than the air ride......well to me atleast.
Did you ever properly set the tire pressure on the two with Quadra Lift?


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Re: Quadra Lift ride Quality

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Let me clarify, I drove 2 different versions with the air ride and hated both. One was a diesel 4x4 and the other was a Hemi 4x4. When I said "bouncy" I didn't mean it was hard or stiff.....it was just the opposite. Both felt under so dampened I actually asked the sales guy if it was broken......that's why I asked to drive a second GC. I actually find it hard to believe that anyone likes how they ride. I'd much rather have the magnetic shocks like the Cadillac and other mfg. use (not sure if it's used on SUV though).

Air ride seems pretty gimmicky to me but I was interested. The standard coil and shock setup was much more planted and controlled all situations.....the air ride feels disconnected and detached from the road. It floats around like a caddy from the 70's. I do like that the air ride will lower at speed to help with aerodynamics but that's about the only good thing I could say.

I bought a 2016 75th anniversary Limited with the std. Suspension.....it also came with the tires over inflated. Once dropped them to the correct psi it rides better than the air ride......well to me atleast. I can see I'm the minority here but I am a car guy that prefers taut communicative suspensions that I've had on many sports cars and sport sedans.

Just my point of view.

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QL is generally a very comfortable ride and the flexibility it gives with height adjustment can be nice at certain times. As others have noted, however, tire choice and inflation can make a difference. And folks who like a little less "roll" can put a stiffer sway bar on to adjust the feel, too.
I've driven a few rentals without air suspension, and have over 50k on an overland with it.

I prefer the normal setting of the air suspension over not having it, particularly on the canyon roads here being rebuilt after a teeny little bit of flooding 3 years back.
If you can get to high 20s to 30ish on really really bad roads, the air suspension seems to avoid dreaded floating far better than non-air does.

And on curvy highways, the sport mode makes an overland handle pretty much like an old Jag sedan--soft, not floaty, but reasonably comfortable for a really heavy pig.
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Wow! I test drove 2016 a high altitude with the air ride and hated it. It was so bouncy and almost felt uncontrolled. I drove over a speed bump at low speeds (5 mph) and I swear it hit the bump stops. I saw no benefit of the air suspension.
Very interesting observation. Like others I am trying to figure out how it could have been so bad. I am also a "car guy" and the car sitting next to my High Altitude in the garage is a Corvette so I am very familiar with what a planted car feels like. I'm trying to figure out how both cars could have had such a terrible feeling. I had a 2014 Summit V8 which definitely had a little floatier feeling suspension compared to the "sport tuned" setup in my High Altitude, but still nowhere near uncontrollable. It was an extremely nice riding vehicle.
The only situations where the air suspension feels pretty bad is if you drive in OR 2 height setting. If you go around in that setting before it automatically lowers its been bone jarring. Driving in park setting is also very rough until it automatically raises the vehicle. Either way I highly doubt you only parking lot test drove them in either of those settings. Oh well I dunno what to say if you don't like it you don't like it.
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Very interesting observation. Like others I am trying to figure out how it could have been so bad. I am also a "car guy" and the car sitting next to my High Altitude in the garage is a Corvette so I am very familiar with what a planted car feels like. I'm trying to figure out how both cars could have had such a terrible feeling. I had a 2014 Summit V8 which definitely had a little floatier feeling suspension compared to the "sport tuned" setup in my High Altitude, but still nowhere near uncontrollable. It was an extremely nice riding vehicle.
The only situations where the air suspension feels pretty bad is if you drive in OR 2 height setting. If you go around in that setting before it automatically lowers its been bone jarring. Driving in park setting is also very rough until it automatically raises the vehicle. Either way I highly doubt you only parking lot test drove them in either of those settings. Oh well I dunno what to say if you don't like it you don't like it.
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