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Old 09-01-2016, 06:57 AM
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Re: Quadra Lift ride Quality

One question for the guys in the know; is the air suspension the same on my Limited with the Adventure 2 package as the higher level GC's? (I would assume they are)

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Re: Quadra Lift ride Quality

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Yes I owned both a 2014 Summit V8 and a 2015 HA V6 and part numbers on the suspension components were definitely different. I can also say without a doubt the ride between the two is noticeably different. So much so that after first test drive in the HA I was sold. There is NO QUESTION the suspensions are different, or atleast something is to give them a different ride. That's between a Summit and an HA, so I wouldnt know about the Overland as I never drive one.

I remember that thread (at least I think it was you). You (or someone) was, at the time, looking at the rear shock part numbers. Only, those weren't the Chrysler part numbers--they were the external manufacturer part numbers (which can differ).

Anyway...I'll go run an HA VIN today and get a screen shot of the part numbers for the suspension components. I'll do the same on a standard Overland and post them.
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Re: Quadra Lift ride Quality

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Anyway...I'll go run an HA VIN today and get a screen shot of the part numbers for the suspension components. I'll do the same on a standard Overland and post them.
Would be interesting if you could check the numbers for the OR2 package too?
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Re: Quadra Lift ride Quality

My observations of the air ride is this for my 55y/o a$$:

In enter/exit mode it is really bouncy over bumps. It seems to have zero damping or firmness.

In aero mode I love how it absorbs freeway irregularities. Yes, it does "float" in some circumstances, but I kinda like that. On long trips I like a soft and comfortable ride.

In normal mode I think it is firm, but still it takes out the shock of potholes and such.

And ofcourse, the higher you go, the firmer it gets. And in sport mode, I cannot really comment on that, since I have not really put it to the test yet on corners.

I have yet to feel the body lean while cornering in Aero mode. I suspect the electronic damping and pneumatic load leveling have something to do with this.
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Old 09-01-2016, 08:15 AM
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Re: Quadra Lift ride Quality

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My observations of the air ride is this for my 55y/o a$$:

And in sport mode, I cannot really comment on that, since I have not really put it to the test yet on corners.

I have yet to feel the body lean while cornering in Aero mode. I suspect the electronic damping and pneumatic load leveling have something to do with this.
When you go into Sport mode the suspension goes into Aero mode. The difference is that it is no longer speed dependent.

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Re: Quadra Lift ride Quality

There may be a difference in suspension parts between different motors more so than trims. Also I'm sure tires and different engine weights. I know the brakes are different between different motors.

So if you want apples to apples compare it has to be the same engine and tires, otherwise the comparison is void.
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Re: Quadra Lift ride Quality

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There may be a difference in suspension parts between different motors more so than trims. Also I'm sure tires and different engine weights. I know the brakes are different between different motors.

So if you want apples to apples compare it has to be the same engine and tires, otherwise the comparison is void.
Hemi brakes and diesel brakes are the same I believe.

Well either way, high altitude or overland. I was underwhelmed with the air ride suspension.
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Re: Quadra Lift ride Quality

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One question for the guys in the know; is the air suspension the same on my Limited with the Adventure 2 package as the higher level GC's? (I would assume they are)
Yes, it's the same suspension.
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Re: Quadra Lift ride Quality

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There may be a difference in suspension parts between different motors more so than trims. Also I'm sure tires and different engine weights. I know the brakes are different between different motors.

So if you want apples to apples compare it has to be the same engine and tires, otherwise the comparison is void.

For the air suspension, the same parts are used for V6/V8/Diesel. The ride will definitely feel different between these due to the weight differences.

If anyone feels like doing some more comparisons, most of the 2014+ WK2 vehicles with air suspension should still have the part numbers on their front air spring/shock assemblies. Look in the wheel well, towards the top and behind the upper control arm. It's a white sticker on the metal "can" portion of the assembly, right above the flexible portion of the air spring. One or both sides usually have them (unless they've worn off).
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Re: Quadra Lift ride Quality

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Wow! I test drove 2016 a high altitude with the air ride and hated it. It was so bouncy and almost felt uncontrolled. I drove over a speed bump at low speeds (5 mph) and I swear it hit the bump stops. I saw no benefit of the air suspension.
It was likely still in park mode where it was completely lowered. You have to drive above 15-17mph to have it pump up to normal ride height after parked. I can haul ass over speed bumps compared to a spring suspension.
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Re: Quadra Lift ride Quality

I had QL on my 2011 and now normal suspension on my 2016. I think the QL is better/softer.
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It was likely still in park mode where it was completely lowered. You have to drive above 15-17mph to have it pump up to normal ride height after parked. I can haul ass over speed bumps compared to a spring suspension.

Nope, I was pulling back into the dealership after the test drive. The undulation after hitting the speed bump at low speeds was ridiculous.
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