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Old 07-30-2012, 08:47 AM
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Re: Quadra Trac 1 situation/capabilities

Shutterbug, for the WK2 it is more a question of how much margin and how much driving you want to do in low traction situations. With decent tires, driver skill will get you about anywhere you would want to take a $40,000 long wheelbase SUV with a lot of exposed sheet metal. You won't have to work as hard or have as much skill with the QT2, however.

There is no question the QT2 provides superior traction performance under all driving conditions, but it does use more mpg. The situations where QT1 is better is initial and maintenance cost, mpg, and responsive/smooth feel on the street in dry or wet conditions.

The QT2 is easier to drive in low traction situations as it does most of the thinking for you. When the going really gets interesting, soft sand, 3-4 inches of mud, 8-12 inches of heavy or crusty snow, the QT2 low range lock or tow hooks are essential.
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Old 07-30-2012, 06:54 PM
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Re: Quadra Trac 1 situation/capabilities

I'd agree that I think the QT1 is more than capable than what were giving it credit for. This is my first 4x4 so I'm still trying to test the vehicles capabilities. I plan on bringing a shovel and some boards in case I do get stuck in the OBX, although I think I should be fine.

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I would like to expand the OP's question a bit. He asked about whether his QT1 was up to sand. I have a QT1 that I bought primarilly for road use, but would not be opposed to some off-road use. I know that it is not, and never will be a rock crawler nor do I want it to be. Is there a chart somewhere that shows the types of off-roading experiences, from gravel roads/forest service roads to rock crawling with all the conditions in between and what transfer cases would be appropriate for each?

I suspect the QT1 is more capable that I am thinking it is, but my primary mission for it was AWD, which I understand it does just fine at. My last vehicle was a 4x4 Armada with running boards and all the options. It was very capable, but I never took it rock crawling as that would have ripped off the boards and, given the wheelbase, probably half the underside.

I appreciate the input from those who have tested the QT1 in various conditions. I realize that wheel/tire selection plays a big part and the 20" wheels with low profile tires on the Altitude are not ideal for many off road situations, but having another set of wheels on hand is a possibility. Thanks for the input.
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ColdCase where did you learn all that info about how much engine power can be sent to certain wheels?
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Re: Quadra Trac 1 situation/capabilities

Go to Jeeps website, they have some little videos on the different 4wd systems. WK2Jeeps.com also has some good information.
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Re: Quadra Trac 1 situation/capabilities

I just returned from the OBX where my 2012 QT1 JGC did an outstanding job on the sand. I was all over the southern shores and Ocracoke beaches. I'm not a rookie on beach driving but it was my first experiance with the QT1 system. I aired down to 18-20 psi and never had any issues, light fluffy stuff, deep ruts the QT1 performed great.
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Re: Quadra Trac 1 situation/capabilities

Chad, thanks for the info I really appreciate it..can't wait to hit up the OBX!

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I just returned from the OBX where my 2012 QT1 JGC did an outstanding job on the sand. I was all over the southern shores and Ocracoke beaches. I'm not a rookie on beach driving but it was my first experiance with the QT1 system. I aired down to 18-20 psi and never had any issues, light fluffy stuff, deep ruts the QT1 performed great.
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Re: Quadra Trac 1 situation/capabilities

Did you get the front tow hooks installed before your trip to the OBX?
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Re: Quadra Trac 1 situation/capabilities

Your were either under sold or you under bought. QT1 is a all wheel drive system similar to SUBARUS, its a LIGHT DUTY ALL WHEEL DRIVE SYSTEM, not a 4 WHEEL DRIVE SYSTEM. If you go out on sand often, you should get or should have gotten the QT2. It selects different torque curves for various conditions. Sand mode should use the LOW range gearing giving you tremedous amounts of torque. Trying to force your "all wheel drive" system to work like a 4 wheel drive system will cause damage and heavy wear in the end. If you live near hard packed beaches you may be fine, but if you hit a soft spot or a dune....your sunk. Honestly don't beleive everything you read on here, your QT1 system is NOT the do it all system only the QT2 is.... Sorry about your issue....
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I didn't, I brought a shovel and some winter mats for in case I had to dig myself out but I had no problems in the sand with the QT1 system. In fact I didn't even deflate my tires for the beach in the OBX and had no problems.

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Re: Quadra Trac 1 situation/capabilities

Here in So Cal the lifeguards drive 4WD Ford Escapes on the beaches on the soft sand all day long. It's not THAT challenging! I'm sure QT I's could handle it with ease. Just air down, maintain a constant speed and don't gun it or cause your wheels to spin when starting from a standstill. Dunes however are another matter so pick your routes wisely.
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Re: Quadra Trac 1 situation/capabilities

I just got back from two days on Island Beach Park in NJ and I drive a WK2 w 20"wheels and QT1. I air down to 18 psi turn off ESC and put in 1st/2nd gear..no probs whatsoever.
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Hope you had a good time at IBSP, it's a nice spot

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I just got back from two days on Island Beach Park in NJ and I drive a WK2 w 20"wheels and QT1. I air down to 18 psi turn off ESC and put in 1st/2nd gear..no probs whatsoever.
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