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Old 01-15-2012, 10:49 AM
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Re: Question about Nav

Very soon, the government will force all the manufacturers of nav devices to limit functionality while the vehicle is in motion, as this is truly a safety issue. We will be lucky if our individual states don't outlaw these devices along with bluetooth phones altogether.
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Old 01-15-2012, 10:59 AM
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Re: Question about Nav

I understand the frustration, I've felt it too. Every built in nav system I can remember using in the past 7 year has in motion restrictions to prevent the driver from being distracted by pecking in destination info while driving.

I am guilty of bypassing the restrictions on each system I've had, including my last system on the 2010 Outback. I have considered it on my current Jeep, either using a commercially available box or a homemade one, but I haven't seen the need to invest the money or time to do so. I plan where I'm going and type it in prior to leaving, the detour function work OK when I hit a snag. The voice input is OK, albeit annoying in its pedantic voice confirming each entry.

We share the road with others. We drive a vehicle weighing a couple of tons. It only takes a split second for a situation to develop that requires immediate action from the driver to avoid disaster, having attention diverted could result in tragedy. Few plan on getting into an accident, yet they occur with great frequency.

We're all great drivers, or at least would like to believe we are, but the facts are there are those on the road who can't avoid reading the newspaper, putting on makeup, making a sandwich, texting a quick message or email or typing in an address. Manufacturers are targeted because they were aware (or should have been aware) of the risk their product creates weighed against the cost of using a simple safety mechanism to make it safer.

I would regret having caused an injury because of entering an address, and I if I were a defense lawyer, I would certainly regret the prosecutor having evidence that the nav system safety in my client's Jeep was defeated some aftermarket hardware.
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Old 01-15-2012, 11:14 AM
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Re: Question about Nav

Wow. Tunnel vision on this topic. Again, I want my wife to be able to have full use of the NAV while I'm driving to NC, Vermont or wherever. I don't want to pull over on some highways. Does anyone but me drive on long stretches where there are few places to stop and a 15" shoulder? Now try it in the snow. Maybe her typing will distract me? Maybe they could put in a seat sensor so a person in the passenger seat CAN input info while underway.
And what about all of those radio functions? They seem to be the bigger issue.

Like I said, Lockpick on day one. I'm not interested in having my NAV limited because others can't use it responsibly.

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Old 01-15-2012, 11:46 AM
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Re: Question about Nav

Right there with ya CaptRB! Front passenger seat sensor for like 100lbs

I have in my posession a newly aquired lockpick. Goes in once my 730 RHR is replaced. This whole thing about drivers getting distracted is true, but the same goes for the rubber neckers, the guys reading the news papers, the women putting on make up, while doing their hair and talking on the phone all at the same time.
People who whip their heads around because they just saw a sweet looking Jeep Cherokee go by (Jeepgarage forum users ;-)

Bottom line, do away with all vehicles that go faster than 20mph. It's the only safe way.

I NEVER do any of the above, but a smoking hot blond on a warm summer day in a short skirt! Can't tell ya how many times I've almost wacked something. Guess We'll need to append the list to include no hot blonds
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Re: Question about Nav

LOL....I must admit the ONLY time I've been distracted at the wheel is by a pretty girl!

Of course lockpick will encourage me to enter lots of data, watch Star Trek II: Wrath of Khan and so on, but it's hardly likely as my hands are usually full while I shave, program my Iphone and balance scalding coffee on my leg.

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Re: Question about Nav

^^ Just saying that it is this kind of arrogance that forces lawmakers to try to legislate stupidity out of driving with the inconvenient side effects for most of us. I mean a wise man once said you can't cure stupidity

BTW, you can always use a stand alone GPS unit, which is a lot easier to install than a lock pick and also provides much better NAV features, especially compared to the 730N.
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Re: Question about Nav

So it should be ok to text and drive? I don't know. It's a pretty grey area we're getting into I guess. IMHO, something has to be done about texting and driving. I try to keep in mind that the same rules I want for 16-20 years old inexperienced, and often lacking overall maturity rules also apply to me. Just the other day I was a passenger in a friends car who was complaining about a "woman text driver" while he was doing a search on his in dash Nav and almost ran a red light as I slammed my foot on the floor at the imaginary brake pedal and grabbed the OS handle while saying "RED LIGHT, RED LIGHT!!!!!"
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Re: Question about Nav

Back to the original post ladies.... Once you go through the voice "training" the voice navigation isn't that bad to use. The learning curve is a little steep, but it's surprisingly helpful while in motion.
+1 to 77chero, I would be surprised if you could find a nav system with motion restrictions in the coming years.
Also, like coldcase said, you could always get the base radio and get whatever nav/stereo system you want!
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Re: Question about Nav

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FYI...my Mitsu Outlander, Surabu....Job's Lexus & new Hyundai sonata, all with built in Nav allow full input while driving. I've never heard of such a limitation until now. MOST people I know bought NAV for trips. MOST people I know travel with a wife/co pilot and they operate the NAV. I get the DVD safety issue, but the rest is just nonsense!
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I can tell you for 100% certainty your Lexus at least does not allow nav destination inputs when driving. If yours does, the speed sensor is malfunctioning or someone has done something to the system to allow it.

As others have said, industry wide this lockout is the norm.
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Re: Question about Nav

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As others have said, industry wide this lockout is the norm.
Not the norm in any Honda product. Have had OEM nav in 4 different Honda vehicles since 2003, most recently a 2010 Acura TL. None have had this lockout.

Interestingly enough, none of the standalone GPS devices of which I'm aware, nor any of the iPhone/Android navi apps, require such a lockout.

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