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Re: Question about switching from 20" to 18" for the winter

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Which are the 18s black Mopars that everybody talks about ? Thanks
These ones!

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Re: Question about switching from 20" to 18" for the winter

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These ones!

Looks amazing!!! That made my decision for dedicated winters easy
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Re: Question about switching from 20" to 18" for the winter

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2) Curbs, the only time I have ever scraped a curb was in the winter. I want that extra 2 inches of rubber in the winter to keep my 20's looking nicer for summer.

4) Cushion. There is 2" more air that will help cushion the blows of winter. We get some pretty harsh conditions in the winter and the extra air not only helps protect your rim but it also makes for a softer ride. Our roads suck in the winter and sometimes you don't notice that new pothole when it is filled with slush.
Um ... not to burst your bubble but you're only getting an additional 1" of rubber. The 18 vs 20 is the diameter of the wheel, but it's the radius that matters (9 vs 10) for the things you mentioned (curbs and cushioning.)

With that said, all of your reasons are still good.
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Re: Question about switching from 20" to 18" for the winter

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Here they are on a board members ride "Wahoo"

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Re: Question about switching from 20" to 18" for the winter

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Um ... not to burst your bubble but you're only getting an additional 1" of rubber. The 18 vs 20 is the diameter of the wheel, but it's the radius that matters (9 vs 10) for the things you mentioned (curbs and cushioning.)

With that said, all of your reasons are still good.
Sorry you are right. Just enough clearance for most curbs!
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Would anybody be able to provide the unit price of these wheels? please specify if purchased in the US or Canada.

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Re: Question about switching from 20" to 18" for the winter

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Thanks, I have used Blizzaks in the past and prefer them over anything else I have used. I live on the east coast of Canada and come November it will never be above 30F till march at the earliest. I got the Jeep at the end of January and it was the first time I have ever run all seasons and not a dedicated winter tire and thought the all seasons that come with the jeep are terrible. We get lots of wet snow and ice and the tires just can't handle it.
The Blizzaks are an excellent winter tire, but you might want to take a look at Nokian Tires. These are the best selling winter tires in Northern Europe and a lot of people in North America don't know much about them. They are the absulute best winter SUV tire made. Bar none! Check 'em out;

http://www.nokiantires.com/tyre?id=1...okian+WRG2+SUV

The WRG2 are their newest SUV winter tire than can be run as an all season tire. If you want something strickly for heavy winter snow and ice check out these;

http://www.nokiantires.com/tyre?id=1...peliitta+R+SUV

Or you can go crazy and get studded winter tires, if your driving on hard packed snow or ice and your local government will let you run studded tires!

http://www.nokiantires.com/tyre?id=1...peliitta+5+SUV
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The Blizzaks are an excellent winter tire, but you might want to take a look at Nokian Tires. These are the best selling winter tires in Northern Europe and a lot of people in North America don't know much about them. They are the absulute best winter SUV tire made. Bar none! Check 'em out
I've seen several reviews that contradicts this statement, although when the nokians are studded, which I thing they are in europe, they do very well indeed (on the kind of ice roads in northern europe). Studs are illegal in many if not most areas in North America, however. And the reviews I've seen the stud-less version is a good tire but not outstanding. Last I checked they were not making a tire in the JGC size, but that was awhile ago.
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I've seen several reviews that contradicts this statement, although when the nokians are studded, which I thing they are in europe, they do very well indeed (on the kind of ice roads in northern europe). Studs are illegal in many if not most areas in North America, however. And the reviews I've seen the stud-less version is a good tire but not outstanding. Last I checked they were not making a tire in the JGC size, but that was awhile ago.
The tire size recommended to BHHJEEP, P265/60R18, is made by Nokian is serveral different styles, did you look at the links I posted?

Nokians not outstanding in the snow or ice??? Where are you getting your information from? TireRack.com?? Lots of great reveiws for the Blizzaks they stock and sell but no other competeing brands mentioned. I'm not posting from internet reviews, I've owned several Grand Cherokees w/Nokian winter tires driven thru NY winters and I can tell you first hand they are outstanding in the snow, ice, and or slush! And if you check you'll find studs are not illegal in any area where heavy winter snows and brutal winter conditions are the norm, Right here in the USA and of course in Canada!

If your the type that needs an internet review to back up my first hand Nokian winter tire recommendation check out this link; http://www.bestcovery.com/best-winte...-for-suv-truck
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Sorry, I was talking to folks who live in Canada, where Nokians are good, but not as good as Blizzaks according to those that use them, unless you stud the Nokians, then they are about the same, do your research....

Studded tires are illegal in PA, MA, and NH... perhaps most of the rockies.
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Sorry, I was talking to folks who live in Canada, where Nokians are good, but not as good as Blizzaks according to those that use them, unless you stud the Nokians, then they are about the same, do your research....

Studded tires are illegal in PA, MA, and NH... perhaps most of the rockies.
What are you saying, Nokians may be good for people who live in Canada but not those of us in the USA? I've done my research and actually driven on Nokian winter tires as well as the Blizzaks (which are an excellent winter tire) have you? Nokians are widely known to be the gold standard in winter tires thruout the world. My real world experiences might be a little bit better than reading an internet review, even if you don't agree! The Nokians I've used and recommended are the studless versions I linked too above, I'm sure in heavy packed snow and ice the studded Nokians are even better!

Here's a link to all the places in the United States where studded winter tires are permitted; http://www.tire-information-world.co...gulations.html
As you can see from the link studded tires are legal in PA, MA, and NH, maybe it's you that should do some research!
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