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Re: Reliability

Had my car a year now, 17,000 miles, not one problem. First car ever not to have a problem this far into ownership. Very happy with it so far.
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Old 02-13-2013, 06:08 PM
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Re: Reliability

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I thought about a 4runner when I purchased my Grand Cherokee. However I went back and forth on whether I liked the 5th Gen 4Runner design. How would you compare the two?
I had a 3rd and 4th (v8), both white, both Limited models and loved them. When the 5th Gen came out I was underwhelmed. The big booty, skinny tires and dated interior were no match for a 2011 GC Limited (yet another white one). The pano roof, interior and quiet ride sold me on the test drive.

The GCs light off road, snow and highway manners all seem above what my old 4runner provided. The 2014 interior is awesome in my opinion and puts even more space between itself and the 4runner.

In my opinion the 4runner needs a complete overhaul of inside, outside, tech, features (pano roof) and power to be competetive. But is dependable as hell and holds it value.

Sold both of mine to family members as I knew it was bullet proof. I hope to be able to say the same thing about my Jeep and give it to one of my kids in a few years.
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Re: Reliability

I have a 2012 overland w/ hemi with 25000 miles on it with no problems so far. My father-in-law bought a 2013 Mercedes ML450 ($64000) and he's already had an electrical problem with less than 3000 miles.
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Old 02-13-2013, 07:59 PM
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I thought about a 4runner when I purchased my Grand Cherokee. However I went back and forth on whether I liked the 5th Gen 4Runner design. How would you compare the two?
I traded a 2011 4runner for my 2011 Laredo X and there is no comparison.
The 4runner does have more cargo room but if feel the Jeep is better in every other category. I have had no issues to date on my Jeep and while the 4runner is histotically more dependable, it was the quiet ride, handling and interior quality that sold me. As some others have said I feel I took a leap of faith with the new Jeep based on prior experience with my 02 JGC, but no regrets so far.
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Re: Reliability

I owned a Lexus IS350 prior to my JGC. In 6 years I replaced/repaired exactly nothing. Zero. Nadda.

In 11 months of JGC ownership I've:
1) Had the remote-start climate control reprogrammed (after bringing TSB to dealer--after dealer diagnosed nothing wrong)
2) Heater fan replaced due to worn out bearings
3) Still unsolved mystery high-pitched squeal on cold morning start ups (dealer replaced power steering pump and pulley to no avail)
4) Rear suspension rattles and clunks--bringing it dealer next week to get that looked at.

This is my first big-3 vehicle ever, and its living up to the stereotype of crappy quality that has kept me away.
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Old 02-14-2013, 12:15 AM
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Lexus Steps Ahead Of The Competition In JD Power 2013 Vehicle Dependability Study - AutoSpies Auto News

Those are the results of the 2013 JD Power Vehicle dependability study of 2010 model year vehicles. Jeep (and dodge/chrysler) still seem to be bottom of the barrel. What is more concerning is that the Chrysler brands improved very little from 2011; despite all the talk of quality improvements they improved less than the industry average.
What are peoples' comments/thoughts on this? I am not trying to start a flame war, just posting information to stimulate conversation on this important matter.
Several independent surveys were taken of 2011/2012 Grand Cherokee owners. Those with 5.7L had very high percentage, like 90% or something would buy the vehicle again, and I think it was the best pride of ownership of any SUV, maybe any vehicle on the road today. Someone has this info. somewhere on the forum. I think Milous has posted it before.
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12 GC Summit V6, 13,000 miles in 12 months. Not one issue large or small. The JD Powers report in question as stated by others is for model year 2010. Wait a couple of years and we will see if things on the new GC are holding together or not. Also remember the numbers are for all Jeep models from 2010, not just the GC.
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Old 02-14-2013, 09:21 AM
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I owned a Lexus IS350 prior to my JGC. In 6 years I replaced/repaired exactly nothing. Zero. Nadda.

In 11 months of JGC ownership I've:
1) Had the remote-start climate control reprogrammed (after bringing TSB to dealer--after dealer diagnosed nothing wrong)
2) Heater fan replaced due to worn out bearings
3) Still unsolved mystery high-pitched squeal on cold morning start ups (dealer replaced power steering pump and pulley to no avail)
4) Rear suspension rattles and clunks--bringing it dealer next week to get that looked at.

This is my first big-3 vehicle ever, and its living up to the stereotype of crappy quality that has kept me away.
Did you not do the recalls and TSB's consisting of:

1. valve spring recall - mandatory and dangerous if not done
2. gas pedal adjustment - fake TSB because of the Prius "problem"
3. cam gear startup rattle
4. dash rattle
5. Fuel pressure sensor inspection/replacement

I also just sold a 2007 IS350 and didn't have any major problems outside these 5 recalls and TSB's. 2 other issues I had were the power tilting mirrors stopped working, and rust showed up on one of the wheels. Both fixed under warranty.

While it was an unreal car and gave me 106k reliable miles, it didn't come without a few issues within the first 3-4 years of ownership.

Looking forward to my 2014 GC, but will get a warranty to protect myself. Chrysler may not make a Lexus, but they seem to make extended warranties very reasonable.
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Old 02-14-2013, 09:53 AM
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Did you not do the recalls and TSB's consisting of:

1. valve spring recall - mandatory and dangerous if not done
2. gas pedal adjustment - fake TSB because of the Prius "problem"
3. cam gear startup rattle
4. dash rattle
5. Fuel pressure sensor inspection/replacement

I also just sold a 2007 IS350 and didn't have any major problems outside these 5 recalls and TSB's. 2 other issues I had were the power tilting mirrors stopped working, and rust showed up on one of the wheels. Both fixed under warranty.

While it was an unreal car and gave me 106k reliable miles, it didn't come without a few issues within the first 3-4 years of ownership.

Looking forward to my 2014 GC, but will get a warranty to protect myself. Chrysler may not make a Lexus, but they seem to make extended warranties very reasonable.
I have a 07 is350 and am in the process of parting out my mods to sell it this summer and get into a 2014. I'm very excited about the wk2 and all the progress jeep has made. I wanted a wk1 srt just couldn't give up the comfort /features of Lexus for it with the wk2 whole different ball game
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Old 02-14-2013, 10:16 AM
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Re: Reliability

I don't need any opinion poll to tell me that Japanese cars are usually very reliable.
If someone wants to drive a Lexus... I get it. But the thing is...Lexus just ain't my style.
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Old 02-14-2013, 11:49 AM
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Re: Reliability

There is a story in this morning's WSJ clarifying the fact that the WK in question was engineered before the bail out and Fiat's take over. Also mentioned that the latest alliteration would be included in next year's survey. Therefore, it's okay to unbunch your undies!
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Old 02-14-2013, 12:36 PM
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Fiat: Fix It Again Tony.
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