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Replace my '06 WK with...?

According to my wife I've got the green light to replace my 06 WK with something new. It needs all new tires, right LCA and hub and both sides UCA. Did the left side 2 years ago. The tires are practically baloney skins at this point, if only because I keep putting it off...

There's not a ton out there that appeals to me. My main complaint is the vertical height of the WK's rear cargo area is a little too short. That and driving the 5.7 like a criminal results in horrifically bad gas mileage. The driving style isn't likely to change.

So, what do I replace this with? Budget is pretty open, thankfully.

What's the timeframe on actual delivery of an ordered '17 CRD?

I've yet to drive a V6. I'm told it's a lot more peppy than the 6's offered on the WK series. I do love being able to mash the go pedal with the 5.7. I've never driven a CRD, so I have no idea how it compares to the Hemi.

Towing capacity isn't really a factor for me. But as the packages are organized I'd likely aim for one with the tow setup.

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Old 06-13-2016, 08:35 AM
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Re: Replace my '06 WK with...?

You might want to make a little "field trip" to a Jeep dealer to play and drive each of the three engine choices. The V6 with the 8-speed, while certainly not a "rocket ship", offers surprising performance. The Hemi is the Hemi. The CRD doesn't have the hard acceleration you might crave, but it has torque for towing and better fuel economy than the V8. So stop by...tell them you are doing research...and get some test drives, ideally on similarly equipped vehicles (trim levels) so that the major difference is just the engine.

Generally, you'll like the current JGC I suspect.
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Re: Replace my '06 WK with...?

I didn't have time for test drives but did have the opportunity to sit/walk-around the new models. It's always a dance figuring out which trim level/options to consider. I'd be leaning toward an Overland spec. I'm not psyched about the large rims, if just because of limited tire selections in the future. While I can always get different rims/tires it's nice to have it all sorted out from the git-go.
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Re: Replace my '06 WK with...?

Honestly, the tire choices for the 20" wheels are substantially more than just a couple years ago. It's becoming a popular size for many SUVs. That said, if you add the Off Road Adventure II package, you'll get 18" wheels and a real AT tire for MY16+ if that's important to you.
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Re: Replace my '06 WK with...?

Limited tire options? There are tons of tire options for that size wheel these days like Jim said above. Plus I think the WK2 just looks better with the 20" wheels. If you don't have time to test drive a few cars then you definitely don't have time to buy one lol. Seriously though, on a large purchase like this you gotta drive them, you gotta have some time to stop over at a dealership. Jim summed it up well, the V8 and 8spd are magnificent together, but with a heavy foot will suffer at the pump like you do now. The V6 with 8spd is also good, and will get you about 3-4mpg better than the V8, or about 100 extra miles per tank (I have owned both and that's what I got between the two).
There is also a chance that the 8spd V6 in the newer models is as quick or quicker than your V8 WK. it won't sound as cool, but will do everything it can and get better fuel economy. As for the diesel, I have never driven it, but I was told it's not exactly a blast to drive. Has lots of torque, but it's a different kind of driving experience...maybe good maybe bad I don't know.
Either way I say find time and go for it!! Overland or Summit are both awesome.
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Old 06-13-2016, 11:24 AM
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Re: Replace my '06 WK with...?

Diesel gives better fuel millage and has plenty of power. I find it very quick and comfortable to drive even in city's stop and go traffic. Also, fwiw you will get a Made in Germany ZF transmission. Like other said, there are plenty of options when shopping 20 inch tires, and it looks a little better than 18.
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Re: Replace my '06 WK with...?

On other vehicles I've found low profile tires to be less than ideal in sand, mud & snow conditions. Not conditions I run regularly, I'll grant you. But it's nice to have the option and "the look" has little to do with my decision making. I'm not a fan of the low profile look anyway. I do, however, like to avoid getting pigeon-holed long term with regard to tire choices. So combine travel conditions, dislike of the LP look and tire options leads me to lean toward the 18" setup. But it's not a deal-breaker kind of thing, as tires/rims are easily changed, and thankfully the WK2 caliper setup won't get in the way of options (like happens on some vehicles with LP/sport setups).
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Re: Replace my '06 WK with...?

I certainly expect to spend some time behind the wheel of several options. I did that with the WK, with borrowing a loaner overnight. Did that with other contenders at the time and came away preferring the WK for overall ride & performance. I just didn't happen to have time that particular afternoon.

I can afford the bad mileage of the Hemi, I just hate being reminded of it with more frequent stops at the gas station! I've long since kept it from showing me the calculated MPG on the EVIC! But I sure do like being able to depend on it's "put this beast into that spot NOW" kind of power on demand.

Clearly I won't 'know' until I spend some time mashing the pedal in a V6 setup to decide if that's enough. Driving the V6 WKs definitely kept me from buying them. But I can ask here and expect folks that have owned and driven both to possibly reply.

Meanwhile, just how long will it be before a '17 CRD can be delivered?
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Re: Replace my '06 WK with...?

I doubt you would see much mpg improvement with the V6 if you drive it the same way. I bet you would miss the power of the V8 far more than any appreciation of a few mpg improvement. If you didn't drive with a heavy foot (like myself, as well), it might be worth the downgrade like JTS did. He seems quite happy with the change from a V8 to a V6, with power and mileage. But everyone is right...you definitely need to do a good long test drive with all 3 engines before making any decisions.

BTW, I'm averaging between 13 and 16 mpg with my V8, which sucks, but I wouldn't trade the power for anything (except MORE power, of course!!). I would've gotten an SRT, but I like to go off road every now and then, so that wouldn't work.

Whatever you get, you will really enjoy the many updates since '06! And if you like technology/safety features, you should probably opt for the 2017 over the 2016, so you can lane departure and park assist. If you don't care about those 2 particular things, there's no reason not to look at a '16.
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^The current Pentastar V6 puts down better acceleration/numbers than the old Hemi and I could only imagine SIGNIFICANTLY better fuel economy as well.
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Re: Replace my '06 WK with...?

Also fwiw, the tires on the 20" wheels certainly wouldn't be considered low profile. Lower profile than the 18" tires yes, but really not that much. I noticed you mentioned that a few times, but they have pretty beefy sidewalls. Infact visually the side wall height looks almost the same as the 18" wheels. I know because my Jeep is parked next to a base Grand Cherokee with the 18" wheels and I'm looking at them right now lol. Either way though like you said wheels can easily be swapped and there are always complete and new takeoff sets available online if you do end up wanting to go 18".
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Re: Replace my '06 WK with...?

Excellent points, all around.

A test drive with the engine options is definitely on my list. I did that with the '06 and back then it was a no-contest win for the Hemi. The V6's were just too noisy and had to try to hard.

Everything out there today is better than the '06, lots of nice changes. The only downside to waiting for the '17 is having to continue to ignore what my existing WK needs or spend ~$2k. Which I very likely would not recoup, come trade-in. That and I'd have to shop from available '16 inventory, not necessarily getting exactly what I'm after. Blue, tan interior, Limited (or better), tow package and... an engine TBD. Likely a narrow selection of that out there.
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