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Replacement HIDs, 11 Overland

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#1 ·
Hey everyone, my first post here, will probably have several more in the future.

Anyway, my passenger side headlight turned the fabled pink of a dying Xenon gas HID and needs replacement. Not knowing anything about HIDs I asked the dealer to do it, but with a quote of 250 bones I opted to do it myself. The job is easy enough, I just don't know what kind of bulb to get. My old 98 GC was a simple $20 fix, but HIDs seem like a different animal when it comes to picking the right one. There's all sorts of horror stories out there about generic bulbs causing more issues than their worth. Also, is there a second bulb for high beams? I see low beam HIDs all over, but isn't the same bulb used for high and low (my high looked pink as well so I am assuming it is so)?

I want to stay as close to the OEM look (D1S 4300K I believe, or even a pair of 5000Ks) without paying the OEM price. Also, after reading several reviews I would like to avoid the whole "blown ballast" ordeal.

Can someone point me in the right direction for a set of replacement bulbs that wont brake the bank or blow the ballast? I'm trying to put a TJ back together and save for a wedding, hundreds of dollars is not what I anticipated spending on a light bulb.


Thanks in advance!
 
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#12 ·
Id like to continue this post and ask a similar question.

Im looking to make my fogs and DTRL'S all match my factory HIDs.

1st question is, what type of bulbs are in the fixture that come on when I switch the lights to the middle setting? If I put the switch to the far left (auto) or far right (head lamp logo) the outer HID's come on. These are bright white with a blueish tint many are saying appear to be 4300k.
But there is another lamp in the main headlight assembly that is inset (HIDs are outset) and comes on with the setting next to far right. Im guessing they are called the Day Time Running Lamps (DTRL's), but it matches the fog lights with the yellowish tint. My dealership only has info on the fogs and HIDs.

Also, there is conflicting info out there as far as what color lamps to use for a perfect match.

Many recommend 4300k, but others say to go higher like 5000k or 6000k as the halogen or LED colors need be higher to match HID.

Can anyone recommend what color / type / style I need for my fogs and DTRL? If LED is better, why?

Anybody who's done this with solid match, please post pics.
 
#6 ·
I wish I would have been able to get back on the forum and see more than the first post before I picked one. I had to get them replaced quickly due to a road trip I went on.


I ended up going through kbcarstuff for a pair of Phillips DS1 4300k. I got on their chat and asked the person for a discount and he handed out 5% like nothing, but it was still $150ish for the set.

The bulbs work great for the most part but the installation was. . . tedious. Drivers side is covered by a rubber boot that doesn't really like to come out with ease, passenger side is like playing Tetris. I am noticing that (from the light reflected off of my garage door) the drivers side looks different than the passengers. The passenger side looks normal and burns bright, the drivers side has a sort of "U" shape to the top of the light. I am assuming that its an installation issue and I should probably try to re-seat the bulb.
 
#7 ·
Awesome: thank you for the clarification//closure.

I am going to be replacing the pair on my 11 O'land; and I understand what you are getting at for the installation (ref: tetris).

I am considering getting the 5000K color instead, but am trying to confirm that this "mod" is plug and play (which I don't see any reason for it not to be, given that it is the same Wattage/Voltage).
 
#8 · (Edited)
Awesome: thank you for the clarification//closure.

I am going to be replacing the pair on my 11 O'land; and I understand what you are getting at for the installation (ref: tetris).

I am considering getting the 5000K color instead, but am trying to confirm that this "mod" is plug and play (which I don't see any reason for it not to be, given that it is the same Wattage/Voltage).
I went through dozens of pages searching for the answer on that. There's a lot of horror stories of people replacing their bulbs with aftermarket ones and blowing the ballasts out.

I would recommend buying from one of the vendors listed on this site and, from reading reviews, cheap bulbs are generally too good to be true.

The China makes picture perfect knockoffs of both product and packaging, but the quality will not be there. I purchased a pair of Chinese beats once (headphones), looked legit, but fell apart almost immediately and sounded like the free headphones they give you on an airplane. Same concept would apply to headlights. Lots of these are for sale on Amazon, beware and read reviews.

Also, keep in mind, higher temp bulbs burn out a little faster. Like a set of 8000k are literally burning the gas at 8000 kelvin, giving the tinted color. But like anything else, the hotter you run it the faster it burns out. With that logic, your paying more for a bulb that will last less time. Also, the 4300k produces the most light, brightest bulb as far as vision is concerned.

Cheers and good luck!


Edit: Google math - > 4300k = 7280 Fahrenheit, 5000k = 8540 Fahrenheit
 
#9 ·
In general, I try (hard) to stay away from China knock-off replacement parts.

I think that I am going to go through the kbcarstuff site, as it indicates that these bulbs are made in Germany ... rather than China.

I am sure that there is a couple operations in China that can produce quality products, I just do not want to find out the hard way that saving a couple dollars now will cost me much more in the future.

Thanks for the tip, and moreover, I appreciate that you didn't reference the Kelvin temp in "degrees kelvin" ... thereby making any degreed engineer's skin crawl.
 
#13 ·
We do have a few options for D1S. The factory bulbs are 4300K which is the brightest color temperature. It does have a little bit of yellow in it which some people don't like. The 5000K is more of a pure white color. You will start seeing more blue in the light once you get to the 6000K range. You do get less light the higher you go in color temperature.

John
 
#14 ·
I already found some stuff. But to correct you, you only get MORE light with lower color temps according to lumen meters. The human eye gets more visible light with whiter colors like 5k-6k.

That's why it's easier to see in a Walmart parking lot lit up with white metal halide bulbs versus a Home Depot parking lot lit up with orange high pressure sodium bulbs.

Also why all the NEW led stuff coming out for security lighting and parking lot lighting and exterior lighting in general is more of a pure white.
 
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