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Old 08-10-2010, 10:55 AM
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Round two... 2011 GC vs 4Runner

Pentastar V6 haters will love this...

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...ion/index.html
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Old 08-10-2010, 11:24 AM
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Re: Round two... 2011 GC vs 4Runner

Acceleration numbers for the GC are pretty much in line with other reports.

Yup, it loses the drag race, for those who care. The Pentastar is more a spinner than a low end grunt (although the torque curve is fairly broad, it's still an oversquare engine).

It is what it is, and you can't please everybody.
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Old 08-10-2010, 11:36 AM
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Re: Round two... 2011 GC vs 4Runner

I wouldn't care what the performance figures had to say about that 4Runner...you need a bag over your head to walk up to it in the driveway. Seriously, the exterior and interior seem to have been designed almost 20 years ago. The ZJ is a better looking vehicle than this. Just too fugly to be given a second look in today's choices.
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Old 08-10-2010, 11:59 AM
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Re: Round two... 2011 GC vs 4Runner

I'm glad to see the editors were honest about this
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Old 08-10-2010, 02:03 PM
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Re: Round two... 2011 GC vs 4Runner

As always, it all comes back full circle to needing a better shiftbox. So far, nothing but can-kicking from Chrysler on when this will take place.

We drove a dealer's 2WD, and with a 400 pound reduction over the Overland the 5-speed was pretty decent, even if still tardy right off the line. But who wants 2WD?

When the Flex came out, it was hammered from all sides for lacking a telescoping steering wheel. Presto, the next year Ford added telescoping steering. Gotta wonder whether Chrysler/Fiat has that same mindset.
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Re: Round two... 2011 GC vs 4Runner

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As always, it all comes back full circle to needing a better shiftbox. So far, nothing but can-kicking from Chrysler on when this will take place.

We drove a dealer's 2WD, and with a 400 pound reduction over the Overland the 5-speed was pretty decent, even if still tardy right off the line. But who wants 2WD?

When the Flex came out, it was hammered from all sides for lacking a telescoping steering wheel. Presto, the next year Ford added telescoping steering. Gotta wonder whether Chrysler/Fiat has that same mindset.
Simply adding a telescoping steering wheel is a little different that totally developing, testing, building, and implementing a whole new transmission.
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Old 08-10-2010, 02:15 PM
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Re: Round two... 2011 GC vs 4Runner

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Simply adding a telescoping steering wheel is a little different that totally developing, testing, building, and implementing a whole new transmission.
the interesting part is that they have a transmission that they are going to be using in 2012 and 2013 vehicles the 8 speed transmission that they've been working on ... so let's hope the GC gets it too

http://jeepgarage.org/showthread.php...d+transmission
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the interesting part is that they have a transmission that they are going to be using in 2012 and 2013 vehicles the 8 speed transmission that they've been working on ... so let's hope the GC gets it too

http://jeepgarage.org/showthread.php...d+transmission
I am quite familiar with the ZF tranny however it will not be available in the Wk2 until 2013 or 2014 so like I previously said it will take longer to implement it than simply adding a telescoping steering wheel.
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Re: Round two... 2011 GC vs 4Runner

can't wait till the 8 speed paired up with new GC
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I am quite familiar with the ZF tranny however it will not be available in the Wk2 until 2013 or 2014 so like I previously said it will take longer to implement it than simply adding a telescoping steering wheel.
Am I misinformed, or doesn't the ZF transmission exist and is already being used for German cars?
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Re: Round two... 2011 GC vs 4Runner

yes......but production of the ZF hasnt started here in the states yet. I believe once the plant is up ad going the ZF will start showing up in Chry Co vehicles
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Re: Round two... 2011 GC vs 4Runner

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I wouldn't care what the performance figures had to say about that 4Runner...you need a bag over your head to walk up to it in the driveway. Seriously, the exterior and interior seem to have been designed almost 20 years ago. The ZJ is a better looking vehicle than this. Just too fugly to be given a second look in today's choices.

Yeah, I agree. Over on the 4Runner forums, there are arguments all the time about how ugly they made the new 4Runner. The majority of guys who own the older models just hate the new one (myself included) and the guys who actually own a new 4Runner are always defending its looks. But to me, it's really ugly, especially from the rear. The taillights look like an afterthought...they stick out like something a child would build with Legos. LOL
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