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Re: Seems shifty.

its going to be three on the tree. jeep has found out offering an 8 speed automatic was too complicated and confusing people causing them to accidentally run themselves over.

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Could it be a knob?



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It also solves the paddle shifters being accidentally hit on the wheel.
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How? Are they gone?
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Old 11-03-2015, 06:23 PM
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Re: Seems shifty.

Bring back the push buttons. One press and you have your gear of choice

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Re: Seems shifty.

I still cannot figure out why so many people have had trouble with the current shifter in the '14-'15. Problem (this is my "nice" version, I will not say what I really think) is it is slightly different from what people are used to and they do not like change. Reality is it has a distinct feel once you are used to it, and you can select the proper gear based on the feel alone. There was a slight adjustment in the first couple of days of driving, but now I much prefer it to a regular shifter which now feels clunky to me.

I also like having a shifter on the console despite it taking up useful room. It serves as a nice hand rest.

Somehow I am guessing people will find something to complain about with the shifter on the '16.
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Re: Seems shifty.

Say what you all want to, I like the dial shifter in my 2013 Ram.

I have no problems with the 2014-2015 shifter either, but I'm sure FCA paid some focus group or survey company hundreds of thousands to figure out that people don't like change. Oh well, the wife is happy with her 2014. If we don't like the 2016, or 2017, or 2018... we will just keep the 2014 until we find one we do like.
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Re: Seems shifty.

I sampled a push button transmission in a 2015 Lincoln MXC. Such rubbish. Lean forward to tap the correct button, wait for the lag, and roll. No thanks. Then again, I also dislike push button starters.

Column shifters are ugly, but they are as quick as tunnel shifters. The dial shifter as seen in Land Rover/Jaguars and some FCA products can be quick and efficient as well, it just might take some minor adapting by the user.

So for 2016, the WK2 gets a poly-stable shifter. Less modern than the Audi A8 shifter the 2014-15s had, but probably more intuitive and quicker to use for most users.


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Re: Seems shifty.

Still don't see how people accidentally hit the paddle shifters. 5,000 miles on my Summit and don't recall ever getting close to accidentally touching one. Same with other vehicles I had with paddles as well. Even if you did with 8 gears you probably wouldn't even notice the rpm change :-)
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Re: Seems shifty.

I personally have never accidentally (or intentionally) hit the paddle shifters on my wife's C6...either of them...this is her second. And she has never mentioned having done so, herself. Again...just my personal opinion but I think the paddle shifters are a relatively useless trinket that appeal to a small crowd. They love them. Some hate them. I don't care either way...I just like to shift by feel and not have to look down to see what get I am in. Muscle memory. But that's my personal preference. everyone has one (or more).

I will say that after owning my JKU for a few weeks and being alarmed at how much WORSE my gas mileage was when compared to the TJ or suburbans that preceded it...I did finally realize that while in the heat of really enjoying some of my more energetic music selections and practicing my incredibly NON-existent percussion talents on the various interior components of my new wrangler...I had inadvertently discovered a way to manually shift through the various drive gears by tapping the shifter to the side.

Oooops...

Moral to that story....don't play along with the music....and watch your RPMs.

Thus....no shifter type is idiot proof. Just gimme a week with any of them and I'll prove it.
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Re: Seems shifty.

15k miles here and never accidently hit a paddle. Maybe once or twice, when I had to accelerate quickly from a stop and happen to have my hand on the shifter, I've pulled back on the shifter and changed it in/out of sport.

I like the shifter, have no problem with using it. I don't use the paddles much, but I would a lot more if I could actually hear the engine. Every time I try to use the paddles, I have to stare at the tach and that makes driving a bit tough...

My friend's new MDX has buttons on the center console to change gears, no shifter. I think it has paddles too, don't quote me.
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Re: Seems shifty.

I too have grown used to the 14/15 shifter. Infact, one thing I really like about it is the ease of use. For example if I'm sitting in the garage about to backup, the amount of effort to move it one click back to put in reverse is so easy and quick, you can do it without moving your entire arm and it can still be resting nicely on the arm rest. Same thing going into drive, but just with a couple extra clicks. I also like how solid the shifter feels.
Even though I know its electronic, if they really are going back to the old school style shifter then I'm all the more happy with my 14/15 shifter.
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Re: Seems shifty.

While I don't mind them potentially moving the manual shift controls to the shifter handle, the fastest way to get me to NOT buy another Jeep is to go to a rotary knob. I've used them and truly detest them.

On the other hand, since there's no physical linkage anyway, why don't they offer both as options. All it would require is two different switch controls and alternate cover plates and you could do either one. It couldn't be any harder to offer than most of the other options.

Heck, if they can offer two completely different sized dash screens, how hard can it be to offer two shift interfaces when all either one is, is a set of electronic switches.
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