First, thanks to f1anatic for posting a link in another thread to an article about the possible recall repair. I was able to download the embedded document into a pdf and have attached it to this post.
The "repair" is quite involved - software only reprogramming FOUR modules with an estimated 2.3 hours!!!
Thanks Dan for posting this. I a bit concerned about what the "auto-park" addition entails though. Does that mean if you open the door it goes into park?
First, thanks to f1anatic for posting a link in another thread to an article about the possible recall repair. I was able to download the embedded document into a pdf and have attached it to this post.
The "repair" is quite involved - software only reprogramming FOUR modules with an estimated 2.3 hours!!!
Thanks for sharing this. Gotta setup some time this week as we're going out of town for the 4th holiday, but I'm sure the dealer is going to be swamped with others preparing for travel.
This recall has been put into high-gear (a pun?) because it is believed this is how Star Trek actor Anton Yelchin (Ensign Pavel Chekov) was killed. He got out of his Jeep Grand Cherokee, leaving the engine running, and the transmission not in park.
Got my shifter recall done on Friday, took over 4 hours to update 4 computers on the Summit. Now when the car is in neutral and you open the door the car automatically shifts into Park. There is no alarm but the EIF says "Autopark".
That was my initial feeling, but I feel it must be done if I ever plan on selling or trading it in. I am not looking forward to giving up an entire morning.
"The electronic shift lever on about 536,000 of the above vehicles may allow a roll away
condition if the vehicle’s engine is left running, the parking brake is not engaged, and
the transmission is not in the “PARK” position before exiting the vehicle."
Any vehicle will/may roll away if left in neutral with the parking brake not engaged, regardless of the type of shifter .
I just got my postcard from FCA yesterday advising me of the software fix. Already called my dealer and the earlier appointment they have is for August 10....
Hi WesO--we'd like to make sure you get in earlier than that for your recall. Did you already take the August 10th appointment? If you can PM your servicing dealer, that would be great!
Just had my '15 GC in for service and they did the "fix" for the recall- no more opening the door to back up! Now if your door is open and you take your foot off the break while in gear, auto park engages and puts the car in park. This is only with no seat belt- with seat belt fastened you can drive with the door open- See vid attached. Not sure I like it- safety is important but it feels like a "big brother" thing....
You may want to consider what potential liability you may face if God forbid someone driving your vehicle gets injured or worse. Could you be liable if you ignored getting the recall performed? I don't think you want to find out.
Look like FCA US is a lot more on the ball then the Canadian arm.
I just got my recall notice in the mail which consisted of this card on how to put the vehicle into park and to use the parking brake.
My letter also indicated, "a permanent remedy for this condition is currently under development. FCA is working to finalize a remedy by the 4th quarter of 2016". Granted that probably has to do with the fact that I have the diesel power train.
Dropped my 2014 Grand Cherokee off for the S27 recall and they are stating 3.5 hours to complete, they said people are coming in fast and furious for this recall unlike some of the others.
Very happy with this rental benefit on the maxcare, I hand them my keys to my GC and they hand me keys to the rental and I'm out the door. If the work is estimated more than an hour I just take the free rental. This has got to be like the 15th (6 of them recalls) free maxcare rental in a little over 3 years since I have had the Jeep. Always good vehicles too, GCs RAMs, challengers, chargers, never any econobox junk, I think the worst I got was a minivan once. Got another RAM 1500 4 door, 4x4 v8 today. If I were getting rides or paying for a rental for this many visits I would have been furious with this GC but the easiness of the free maxcare rental makes it a transparent quick drop off and pickup. Its a nice side benefit on the maxcare.
What about buckling the seat belt before you give the car over to the attendant. That way they can pull the car up with the door open and leave it in neutral as it goes through the wash.
I've brought this up before. The carwash I use requires me to stay with my GC through the carwash. Also, any other vehicle with this type electronic shifter needs their owner in the vehicle. I don't mind, and I don't have to worry about any potential problems.
All mechanical carwashes I use require owners to stay in their vehicle. The only time you exit is when that process is done and it's time to clean the interior, but that would be in a separate lot and not on the track any longer.
My guess why some make them exit the vehicle is that they didn't pay for insurance to cover people (outside of their employees) if an accident occurs within the carwash. But I think it would be safer to have them in than out.
In any case, just buckle the seatbelt before exiting as they have mentioned.
My guess why some make them exit the vehicle is that they didn't pay for insurance to cover people (outside of their employees) if an accident occurs within the carwash. But I think it would be safer to have them in than out.
The reason some washes make people exit the vehicle is there have been quite a few accidents where people have hit the gas instead of the brake and crashed into the car wash, employees or the vehicle ahead. People even sometimes reverse in a car wash because they seem to think they didn't get enough soap or wax.
Or worse, have actually opened their doors and/or stepped out of the vehicle in the middle of the wash...
^^^^ I am not an attorney nor an insurance guy, but I do support them nicely in my business ....I am quite certain that any carwash that permits a running vehicle (any config or scenario) to run through the wash unattended will have a rude awakening come damage/injury claim time, especially if they defeat a safety device like clicking a seatbelt without a driver in it...
Yeah agree, the car wash intentionally defeating a safety mechinism buckling a seat belt in a car and an accident happening would be a feeding frenzy for the lawyers. I expect this car wash will just keep riding them through sincr they dont allow customers to.
Could they use the pull tag that is in the center console that puts the transmision into Neutral manually thats used for towing? As it can be reset to go back into park
I routinely tow my JGC behind my motorhome. Has anyone noticed any issues with putting the Jeep in neutral tow mode after having the recall performed? I hate fixes that break things
I love washing my car. I used to do it at least weekly. Now living in the Downtown core, believe it or not there is no car washing in our building. So resorting to commercial car washes unfortunately.
A roller on a track pushes against the rear tire sending the vehicle through the car wash. Should the roller hit resistance it will roll under the wheel. You will see the vehicle raise up and then drop as the roller goes under the wheel.
The full service tunnel carwash I use has the driver leave the vehicle so they can vacuum and wash the mats. They then drive it to the track, put it in neutral and shut the engine off. They catch it at the other end, start it, drive it out and hand dry it while you finish your free coffee.
I don't allow anyone to wash or dry my car, except me. I do use a touchless car wash that has no attendants. I also use Optimum No-Rinse. Microfibers to dry but only with a touch of water. I don't have even one swirl or scratch on black paint.
As far as the car wash, I find it kind of scary that they put any car thru with the engine running and no driver, either you or an attendant. I've never seen that before!
billt, you are one of the most smug and arrogant a__hole's I've ever had the displeasure of talking with.
If shifter A is causing no problems but shifter B is causing lots of problems, then clearly shifter B has design problems. The same pool of people (american people) are using both shifter A and shifter B, but B is causing a ton of problems.
That doesn't negate the operator's responsibility, but for **** sakes, admit that Jeep has a responsibility to design their interfaces so that people less cocky and intelligent than you can operate it without confusion. If you were an engineer or somebody with even a hint of design experience somewhere, you wouldn't be spouting off like you do.
Engineers have responsibilities, and Jeep dropped the ball on this shifter. You won't ever agree, but that remains your problem. You're the smug ass with no logic or empathy. Thankfully Jeep recognized the problem and started the recall.
That doesn't negate the operator's responsibility, but for **** sakes, admit that Jeep has a responsibility to design their interfaces so that people less cocky and intelligent than you can operate it without confusion.
If you can manage to do so without cussing, whining, and acting like an immature a$$wipe, please explain exactly how this shifter manages to, "confuse you"?
I can see validity in both sides sides of the argument. But this shifter shit is beyond old already and the continuing arguing over it is pointless. I don't think I've ever come across a subject out here spread out across numerous threads and so completely beat to death, and that includes the transmission shift quality issues.
As 14-15 owners we're all aware of the quirks with this shifter. We have the obligation to pay attention to this and operate it accordingly. That will alleviate a lot of the problems.
I'm a mechanical designer by profession. From a design standpoint... yes, the shifter is flawed. FCA recognizes that but they're only addressing one part of the flaw with the S27 recall.
The recall is not addressing the problem of when you need to suddenly shift between D-R in order to avoid a collision and not being able to hit the right gear... such as have been reported in parking lots several times out here. That's a design flaw, regardless of the person operating it.
I can see validity in both sides sides of the argument. But this shifter shit is beyond old already and the continuing arguing over it is pointless. I don't think I've ever come across a subject out here spread out across numerous threads and so completely beat to death, and that includes the transmission shift quality issues.
While I agree that the shifter issue as to whether it is acceptable or not has been beaten to death, I take issue where you include the shift quality issues. I, for one, still have problems with harsh shifting when the tranny is cold. FCA has done nothing to correct the issue. So, I will remain on my soapbox, hoping someone from FCA monitors these forums, and will wake up and tell the appropriate parties to do something about it.