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Re: Shifting from Drive to Park

I don't think a lot of you guys really get how the shifter works.

The shifter path has detents in it just like the old style mechanical shifters, except it always returns to center. When you shift from P to D, you don't have to hold it back or anything. You push the button and pull back on the shifter all the way, then let go. When you move the shifter though, you should be able to feel the detents for R and N. So it'll be a rapid click, click, click going into D.

Going from D to R, is two clicks forward. It's not a joystick that only goes one click at a time in either direction. Yes, you can do it that way, moving the shifter one click 2 or 3 times to shift in between gears, but it's slow and not necessary.

It definitely requires some learning and feel to get used to, but so did the old style shifter like the WJ, which was straight forward and back with no gates or side-to-side movement. You just felt the clicks and knew what gear you were in.


And no, the only 'issue' I've had with my shifter is it completely locking me in park and not letting me shift to any gear. Maybe I didn't have the brake depressed enough, I dunno.

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Re: Shifting from Drive to Park

I'm with Beacon and Billt. I know it can shift quicker by holding it, but three clicks forward, I know it's in park. Have had my 2014 for a couple of years, and driving slightly longer then that, with no problems.

Also, when are you guys putting on the parking brake? One click forward into N, parking brake set, two clicks forward into P. No need to look at the visual indicator.

So far so good. Haven't contributed to the " it rolled back by itself", " left the car running", or "my dog drove it into the lake" threads
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I fully understand how the shifter works. After more than 2 years and over 50k miles, I think I've got it figured out. Had it figured out on the test drive actually.

The problem with it is that it's electronic, so it's destined to be glitchy at times. How often does a simple reboot, or close and reopen a program, work for your computer? I know a lot of people don't have issues, and some others do. Mine, for one, works fine most of the time, but is glitchy once in awhile. Next time I shift, it's fine again.
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Re: Shifting from Drive to Park

Not sure where you guys are getting this "hold it to shift" thing either. I tried with mine yesterday. Move forward one click from drive and hold it there, it stays in neutral. If you move the shifter all the way forward (3 clicks), it doesn't matter if you hold it or not, the shifter will go to Park.

You either move the shifter one notch at a time or multiple. There is no holding it and letting the shifter go to a different gear without moving it another click.
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Re: Shifting from Drive to Park

I'm not calling anyone a liar, but I look at it this way. If this thing was so easy and simply to operate, we wouldn't have 3 pages and 29 posts about guys telling what a PITA it is. I've driven automatic transmissions for the last 45+ years. Column, counsel, push button, as well as "Dual Gate" type shifters. This is the first one I've had any issues with.
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Re: Shifting from Drive to Park

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I'm not calling anyone a liar, but I look at it this way. If this thing was so easy and simply to operate, we wouldn't have 3 pages and 29 posts about guys telling what a PITA it is. I've driven automatic transmissions for the last 45+ years. Column, counsel, push button, as well as "Dual Gate" type shifters. This is the first one I've had any issues with.
AGREED!

And if this shifter was so great (or even moderately good), Jeep probably wouldn't be changing to a different design in the 2016+ models. There probably also wouldn't be a government probe involving problems with it.
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Re: Shifting from Drive to Park

While I won't disagree with anyone's assertions, I'd just like to say that my couple posts to this thread were positive. While reading through this thread I admit I've learned a couple new things but I haven't had any issue with the shifter to this point using it the way I've been using it. Designs can continuously be improved so I'm onboard with a change but they're not doing it on my account.
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Re: Shifting from Drive to Park

My only issue with it is that I thought it was really ugly. But now I am use to it and don't really care. It always functions fine for me, thankfully.
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Not sure where you guys are getting this "hold it to shift" thing either. I tried with mine yesterday. Move forward one click from drive and hold it there, it stays in neutral. If you move the shifter all the way forward (3 clicks), it doesn't matter if you hold it or not, the shifter will go to Park.

You either move the shifter one notch at a time or multiple. There is no holding it and letting the shifter go to a different gear without moving it another click.
You rock the shifter all the way forward or backward. You hold it there until you get the gear you want. It has nothing to do with feeling the clicks.
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Re: Shifting from Drive to Park

In the same vein, this shifter does have the ability to get knocked from drive to neutral quite easily, and one has to wait for the jeep to coast to a stop before re-engaging drive.

Case in point, tried to manoeuvre into a more comfortable spot on a long drive (very tired post a 26 hour ER shift) from a rural Hosp.back to home base (300~km run). My left knee (right hand drive) accidentally touched the shifter and I went into neutral. I mean I know that can be done with ? most autos, but is there a lock to prevent this (I know being more careful in the cabin would negate the issue), but I was concerned that since the transmission was replaced (rough shifts in v6 wk2) wether or not someone gummed up on the transmission.
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In the same vein, this shifter does have the ability to get knocked from drive to neutral quite easily, and one has to wait for the jeep to coast to a stop before re-engaging drive.

Case in point, tried to manoeuvre into a more comfortable spot on a long drive (very tired post a 26 hour ER shift) from a rural Hosp.back to home base (300~km run). My left knee (right hand drive) accidentally touched the shifter and I went into neutral. I mean I know that can be done with ? most autos, but is there a lock to prevent this (I know being more careful in the cabin would negate the issue), but I was concerned that since the transmission was replaced (rough shifts in v6 wk2) wether or not someone gummed up on the transmission.
I have the same issue with my right knee/thigh (lefthand drive). They should've moved it further inboard on the console. I've been lucky so far not to have done that... knock on wood.
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In the same vein, this shifter does have the ability to get knocked from drive to neutral quite easily, and one has to wait for the jeep to coast to a stop before re-engaging drive.
I believe you CAN shift back into Drive prior to stopping the vehicle. You just need to Push the Button at the same time you move the "shifter" backwards 1 notch to "Drive".
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