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Re: Snow driving tips?

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The Blizzaks are absolutely terrible in deeper snow. My next set will be Cooper Discoverer A/T 3's and maybe Cooper Studded Weathermaster WSC for the winter.
Family members now have the A/T 3's and love them.


Which Blizzaks models did you ever drove? Why would we even compare them to the studded tires? I would add chains to the stock tires and they will be better than any tires while winter driving. So?
Blizzak's are terrible that is why they are getting highest scores and reviews any place you could look:


Automobile Protection Association
This independent Canadian nonprofit organization selects the Bridgestone

Blizzak DM-V1 as a top pick for SUVs, giving it high ratings for performance in both ice and deep snow.
Review: Winter Tire Info: SUV Tires, Editors of the Automobile Protection Association

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Owners who post reviews at TireRack.com give the Bridgestone Blizzak DM-V1 the highest ratings of any winter tire for light trucks and SUVs. Almost 200 owners have posted reviews for this tire.
Review: Bridgestone Blizzak DM-V1, Contributors to TireRack.com


http://www.consumersearch.com/snow-t...tires-for-suvs

The Bridgestone Blizzak DM-V1 (*Est. $130) is the runaway favorite of both experts and owners. It is a top pick at Canada's Automobile Protection Association (APA) and a leading U.S. testing organization. Testers say its deep tread works well in deep snow, and its performance on ice is excellent. Owners who post at TireRack.com agree, giving the DM-V1 the highest possible ratings on wet, snowy and icy roads and slightly lower (but still excellent) scores for dry cornering stability and steering response. Owners report dramatic success with this tire in the horrendous winter of 2009, including one customer from Baltimore who had no problem cruising through snow so deep that it fell into his Chevy Suburban when he opened the door.
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Re: Snow driving tips?

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Thanks for the tips guys!

Page 368 of manual does say to use 4WD LOW for extreme situation like deep snow. Obviously 1-2 inches, I'd just use the snow switch, but no one uses 4LOW in 5+ inches of fresh snow?
1" or 2" in Chicago North of Seattle we have almost 1' on the ground. Roads are getting plowed (major roads). I'm doing just fine using Snow mode on back roads and Auto mode on the major roads.
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Re: Snow driving tips?

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1" or 2" in Chicago North of Seattle we have almost 1' on the ground. Roads are getting plowed (major roads). I'm doing just fine using Snow mode on back roads and Auto mode on the major roads.
Here's my driveway, north of Seattle. Well over 12" on the ground. Note where my skid plates scraped the snow in ORA 2 height.

Oh, best handling vehicle in snow I've ever driven. Might have to use 4 Low if (when) the rain comes and turns this all into cement. Until then Auto or Snow are both fine.

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Old 01-18-2012, 11:04 AM
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If you need 4 low in 5 inches of fresh snow you need to learn how to drive or get rid of the all season tires cause that's stupid

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Re: Snow driving tips?

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What??? Some non-sense, trollish type post ^^^ Read specs on difference between winter tires...
I'm not trolling and I don't need to read the specs to know that when I have to go out on a job with 8" or more of snow and need to be off-road for some of that, of the two SUVs we have I choose the one with the Destination ATs on it. If the roads are clear but wet and it's below 20F, then I take the one that has Blizzaks on it. The Blizzaks on our 2008 Ford Explorer at work will NOT pull through deep snow especially if we're in a field but on the 2009 with Destination ATs it is fine. We've had both out on the same day in the same field and I can't imagine any reading is going to change my opinion based on real world experience. No?

The only reason we have Blizzaks on one of them is that the owner was told by the tire store to try swapping them on for a winter, and that was two winters ago and counting. They're great otherwise except Spring thru Fall.
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Re: Snow driving tips?

Every tire compromises performance in one way or another. I've had Blizzaks on four different cars, including my GC, but I'm not so personally invested in my choice that I doubt what BManz is saying. It makes sense to me that a more aggressively treaded A/T tire would be more effective in very deep snow than the Blizzaks, which are designed to perform in a wider range of conditions.

Last Winter, I managed to get myself stuck in snow that exceeded the clearance under my car by several inches. Although I was able to get out with some shoveling and a push from a buddy, the thought did occur to me that my Blizzaks could have used a little more aggressive tread under the circumstances. However, for me at least, it wouldn't be worth the probable performance compromise for the remaining 99 percent of my driving time.
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Re: Snow driving tips?

I tend to go with an all around tire - if the Forteras on my '12 suck, i'll either put on Revo 2's or LTX M/S2's...I dont want to have to store a seperate set of tires or swap them around, we dont get enough snow around here (the 6 feet a couple years ago notwithstanding). We get just enough to screw around with transit and shut the area down once or twice a year and then we're done. 'Course, 4 inches will shut this area down. For advice...slow and steady wins the day. I've never gotten stuck in a Jeep, and that includes driving my Cherokee in 12 inches without so much as a slip. I'm hoping the Grand does just as good.
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Re: Snow driving tips?

just picked up a set of GY silent armors wranglers or BFG TA ko and you will be set. Then all you need is one set of tire. You can go fast but learn how to control the jeep. learn how to powerslide and handle your jeep when its sliding and you will be set. downshifting is better then brakes and sliding around cars is better then into trees. oh yeah when you actually come to a complete stop make sure you look behind you to see if the dumb person behind you is stopping. the more weight the better as it will stick to the ground better however that also means you have to push around the jeep more. and traction control is yuck
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Re: Snow driving tips?

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Here's my driveway, north of Seattle. Well over 12" on the ground. Note where my skid plates scraped the snow in ORA 2 height.

Oh, best handling vehicle in snow I've ever driven. Might have to use 4 Low if (when) the rain comes and turns this all into cement. Until then Auto or Snow are both fine.

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If you need 4 low in 5 inches of fresh snow you need to learn how to drive or get rid of the all season tires cause that's stupid

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I'm simply quoting the manual. I know how to drive just fine. Maybe you need to learn some manners?
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Re: Snow driving tips?

PECO and BManz are correct. Each tire has strengths and weaknesses. Blizzaks and winter tires in general are really going to excel in icy or packed snow conditions where their tread siping and specialized rubber compound can make a difference. In deep snow the requirements change and more aggressive tread is more important than siping or the rubber compound. When the snow and ice clear and you have dry roads again but still cold the requirements change again. In my experience simply saying that ‘X’ tire is best just won’t be true for everyone in every condition. Buy the tire that fits your predicted use the best and recognize that you also bought limitations under other non-optimal conditions.

As far as the low range goes, my understanding from the manual is that low range will lock the torque at 50/50 so both output shafts are the same speed - increasing traction. So it could help you get unstuck at least theoretically. It isn’t so much the low range gearing as it is the mechanics of how the 4wd works.
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