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Re: Snow driving tips?

Michelin Latitudes were OK on snow covered roads, but LTX M/S2's are now my 12 month tire.
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Old 01-19-2012, 06:14 PM
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Re: Snow driving tips?

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---- it wouldn't be worth the probable performance compromise for the remaining 99 percent of my driving time.
YES that's right, PECo. Thank you. I couldn't agree more and that's why for my personal vehicles I want to run one set of tires that handle 90%+ of my yearly driving needs. In the Chicago suburbs we get all panicked about a blizzard but then the roads are clear and dry a day or so later. So, I'm not sold on needing a dedicated winter set of tires here for those couple ugly days we get every other week Dec-Mar.

A friend of mine drives his WK2 from Chicago to Florida twice per month all year long moving delicate and expensive electronics and custom machine parts and I cannot see him hauling two sets of tires along so that he can switch out dedicated winter shoes for summer ones somewhere in Kentucky. I wouldn't want to have to do that either when I go down south for Spring Break. PECo you're totally right -- the optimal tire can't be on all the time, otherwise we'd start letting other people demand we all swap out for rain tires when it rains and then to summer performance tires when it's dry & hot, all to be optimized yada yada. Ugh.

For the record, I'm still on the stock 20" Forteras and while I wouldn't choose them at any price, they were totally stable and responsive on a wintery trip into Michigan's UP through tons of snow. Never got stuck with them on the road and freezing temp wet roads were not a problem coming back but I drove sensibly. A set of Wrangler Silent Armor, Destination AT, or Cooper Zeons (or AT3s) are what I'm looking at for a year round tire especially for some muddy access road trails. For each his own!
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Old 01-19-2012, 09:17 PM
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Re: Snow driving tips?

Had the Blizzak 3's installed when I picked up the WK2 November 2010. Haven't been impressed at all in the deeper snow. This winter hasn't been a challenge so far and I've driven many miles each year since 1969. So far a studded winter tire has worked best for me in Northern New England.
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Re: Snow driving tips?

Breitling65, nice to quote the various sources, but actually driving them makes a difference. I don't know where you're located, but try them in challenging deep snow and let me know what you think.
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Old 01-23-2012, 10:05 AM
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Re: Snow driving tips?

I was looking at the Jeep website this morning and watched one of their infomercials (http://www.jeep.com/en/2012/grand_ch...pability_tour/ select "Selec-Terrain"). It talked about the various Selec-Terrain modes. About Snow mode it says:

"When attempting to navigate through exceptionally deep snow or icy conditions in low speeds, shift into Snow mode and 4WD Low for enhanced traction management. Power is metered more evenly between the axles for more manageable traction. And the anti-lock brake and throttle systems use off-road calibration that's designed for the demands of off-roading."

The accompanying animated video doesn't show the vehicle going any slower between Snow mode and Snow mode + 4WD Low. It does show the vehicle going noticeably slower for Rock mode.

I thought 4WD Low meant that you had to more or less crawl the vehicle. Curious why the video appears to show Snow + 4WD Low as allowing more normal driving speeds. Perhaps just an inaccurate video, or does the Snow + 4WD Low combination allow for this?
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Old 01-23-2012, 10:27 AM
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About Snow mode it says:

"When attempting to navigate through exceptionally deep snow or icy conditions in low speeds, shift into Snow mode and 4WD Low for enhanced traction management. Power is metered more evenly between the axles for more manageable traction. And the anti-lock brake and throttle systems use off-road calibration that's designed for the demands of off-roading."

The accompanying animated video doesn't show the vehicle going any slower between Snow mode and Snow mode + 4WD Low. It does show the vehicle going noticeably slower for Rock mode.

I thought 4WD Low meant that you had to more or less crawl the vehicle. Curious why the video appears to show Snow + 4WD Low as allowing more normal driving speeds. Perhaps just an inaccurate video, or does the Snow + 4WD Low combination allow for this?
Deep snow off-road are the key words here. You don't need 4-Low for roads unless the snow is at bumper height where the torque multiplication of 4-Low, which also locks the transfer case, helps navigate the deep stuff. Possibly you could utilize 4-Low to climb a steep hill on a road covered in snow too. I cannot speak to the need for using 4-Low in ice on-road, but off-road it would help being in 4-Low just to lock the transfer case and help prevent the wheels from spinning quickly up to high speeds as the max recommended speed in 4-Low is probably ~45mph like the other 4x4s of mypast. Check the manual.
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Re: Snow driving tips?

I have not looked at the manual but Jeep's website under FAQ says do not exceed 25mph in 4 low. I have seen people say anywhere from 40-45mph in 4 low, I don't think I have ever driven in 4 low above about 15mph. http://www.jeep.com/en/4x4/faqs/
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Re: Snow driving tips?

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I have not looked at the manual but Jeep's website under FAQ says do not exceed 25mph in 4 low. I have seen people say anywhere from 40-45mph in 4 low, I don't think I have ever driven in 4 low above about 15mph. http://www.jeep.com/en/4x4/faqs/
That's what I thought, which is why the video had me puzzled. It seemed to suggest a person could drive the same speed in Snow mode + 4WD Low as they could in just Snow mode.

I realize it's just an animated video, but I would have expected to see the vehicle moving a lot slower, as in the Rock mode portion of the video.
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manual says 25
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That's what I thought, which is why the video had me puzzled. It seemed to suggest a person could drive the same speed in Snow mode + 4WD Low as they could in just Snow mode.

I realize it's just an animated video, but I would have expected to see the vehicle moving a lot slower, as in the Rock mode portion of the video.
Your engine and/or transmission will be hating you if you attempt to drive 45mph in 4LOW.
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manual says 25
Thank you for looking it up. I know I've been pushing 30mph in some heavy stuff in MI and was guessing at the "45mph" max. I had a 4x4 Suburban as a teen and know for sure I could do 40-45mph in Low in that, not that that's a good thing by any means.
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Re: Snow driving tips?

Whatever you do, do not get stuck and tarnish the Jeep name. J/K, there have been some good tips posted in this thread. Just be lucky a lot of you guys don't have to deal with infrequent snow storms in the South. Last year we got 8" in Huntsville, AL and I feared for my life b/c of all the other idiotic drivers. I didn't have enough fingers and toes to count the number of cars I saw in ditches on my short commute to work.
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