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Re: Snow driving tips?

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Add another person to the Blizzak's are no good side. I have had 3 different sets over the years and found they were no better/worse than the off-brand/cheapest snow tire I could find at the tire store tire.

I am still rocking the stock latitudes on my jeep now but have had no issues in the snow and ice with them. Like everyone else, just slow down and drive smooth and you're golden.

If you research TireRack or other places where you could get tires (I would never go tire shop for this) you will see that Blizzaks by far not the most expensive snow tires. Michelins and Pirellis are normally more expensive. If you could satisfy your driving on cheaper snow tires it is up to you, most important it should be snow tires to me. But we are talking about snow vs all seasons on snow ...
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If you research TireRack or other places where you could get tires (I would never go tire shop for this) you will see that Blizzaks by far not the most expensive snow tires. Michelins and Pirellis are normally more expensive. If you could satisfy your driving on cheaper snow tires it is up to you, most important it should be snow tires to me. But we are talking about snow vs all seasons on snow ...
OK, Blizzak's are better than a summer tire in the snow, but that's about it. I paid $180 installed for 4 snow tires for my 07 fusion this year that had blizzak's on it last year and these tires are better. THey grip better, don't slide when the road is dry, and are quieter than the blizzaks. I will never purcase those tires again, they are a waste IMO.

I am glad you like them and have good luch with them though.


But that is on my car, I will never have a dedicated snow tire for an awd vehicle. The all seasons are just fine and when they wear out and I have an all terrain tire, they will be just as good. We don't get a lot of snow here so they are not really needed. I only get snow tires for my car because my wife hauls our 3 kids around in all day and likes to have snow tires. If she feels safe, I feel happy.
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OK, Blizzak's are better than a summer tire in the snow, but that's about it. I paid $180 installed for 4 snow tires for my 07 fusion this year that had blizzak's on it last year and these tires are better. THey grip better, don't slide when the road is dry, and are quieter than the blizzaks. I will never purcase those tires again, they are a waste IMO.

I am glad you like them and have good luch with them though.


But that is on my car, I will never have a dedicated snow tire for an awd vehicle. The all seasons are just fine and when they wear out and I have an all terrain tire, they will be just as good. We don't get a lot of snow here so they are not really needed. I only get snow tires for my car because my wife hauls our 3 kids around in all day and likes to have snow tires. If she feels safe, I feel happy.


Problem that people don't understand is that winter tires are remain softer while all-seasons become stone hard in cold weather. No meter snow or no snow or just icy rain outside. Softer compound and design with lots of small treads near to each other that is what makes winter tires better than all seasons in such weather. Skills and AWD also very important, tires pressure/wheel aliments/brakes too. But comon, you are not taking summer filp-flops while ice outside? AT tires are great for off road, dirt etc driving but still having all season design...
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Re: Snow driving tips?

Its on ice where you really see the difference, I think there is a tirerack video where they equipped three vehicles, one with summer, one snow, and one blizzaks and went racing on a ice hockey ring. The safety margin provided by the Blizzaks in terms of stopping distance and turing radius was incredible.

On a dry road, a summer tire is better, but by not that much of a margin.

So if you want to be prepared for ice regardless, blizzaks. Dry roads a good summer performance tire is better, everything else is a compromise as there does not seem to be one tire for all conditions. So under what conditions are you predicting you will want/need the most traction, this is different for everyone.

When I was shopping for a snow/winter tire, the Blizzacks were one of the least expensive tires for the JGC. Not so for most cars as the cheap tire manufactures only make car sized tires.
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Its on ice where you really see the difference, I think there is a tirerack video where they equipped three vehicles, one with summer, one snow, and one blizzaks and went racing on a ice hockey ring. The safety margin provided by the Blizzaks in terms of stopping distance and turing radius was incredible.

On a dry road, a summer tire is better, but by not that much of a margin.

So if you want to be prepared for ice regardless, blizzaks. Dry roads a good summer performance tire is better, everything else is a compromise as there does not seem to be one tire for all conditions. So under what conditions are you predicting you will want/need the most traction, this is different for everyone.

When I was shopping for a snow/winter tire, the Blizzacks were one of the least expensive tires for the JGC. Not so for most cars as the cheap tire manufactures only make car sized tires.


Agree, also I think main problem in all of these tires talks is one tire set (all seasons or AT) vs two sets (winter and summer). People don't like to change tires and prefer to drive AT all year around. They are defending this as much as they can. I do have two sets of tires for any of my cars, summer for summer and winter for winter and I think it is much superior setup. For sure if I would leave in Florida that would be just summer set....
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Problem that people don't understand is that winter tires are remain softer while all-seasons become stone hard if cold weather. No meter snow or no snow or just icy rain outside. Softer compound and design with lots of small treads near to each other that is what makes winter tires better than all seasons in such weather. Skills and AWD also very important, tires pressure/wheel aliments/brakes too. But comon, you are not taking summer filp-flops while ice outside? AT tires are great for off road, dirt etc driving but still having all season design...
I am pretty sure anyone who has a license knows that winter tires are made for winter and stay softer and have siping and etc... What I noticed after driving for 20 years in Pittsburgh is that it doesn't really matter what you have. I have made it through winters here on bald, cord showing summer tires because I couldn't afford snow tires or even newall season tires. Granted, it would be different if I lived somewhere where it gets a lot of snow or is cold for a long time, but that isn't the case for me. Which is why I am giving my opinion.

I am glad blizzaks make you feel safe, but I doubt they are better than any other ice tire on the market.

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Re: Snow driving tips?

When I was driving a massive number of miles, instead of a two tire setup, I did the better two car setup, a winter car (e.g. Jeep) and a summer car (e.g. BMW). Picked the car for the drive, was not much compromise.

Granted any of us men can get around on just about any tire. I used to take my 62 rear drive open dif comet up through 6-12 inches of show to our hunting camp when the big 4x4s drivers parked their trucks and walked the two miles in, but as i was sliding down a hill on black ice covered street into an a busy intersection with my AT tire equipped truck a few years ago I decided not to compromise on ice traction (I was able to stop just in time by the way, got some traction near the shoulder). But thats just me.
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When I was driving a massive number of miles, instead of a two tire setup, I did the better two car setup, a winter car (e.g. Jeep) and a summer car (e.g. BMW). Picked the car for the drive, was not much compromise.

Granted any of us men can get around on just about any tire. I used to take my 62 rear drive open dif comet up through 6-12 inches of show to our hunting camp when the big 4x4s drivers parked their trucks and walked the two miles in, but as i was sliding down a hill on black ice covered street into an a busy intersection with my AT tire equipped truck a few years ago I decided not to compromise on ice traction (I was able to stop just in time by the way, got some traction near the shoulder). But thats just me.
Same, two cars + bike would be even better Sold bike, can't ride anymore
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I am glad blizzaks make you feel safe, but I doubt they are better than any other ice tire on the market.

They are not, that is true. I drove Michelins and Pirellis winter tires as well. All great as long as they are winter tires and it is winter outside
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Same, two cars + bike would be even better Sold bike, can't ride anymore
I have the 11 JGC, a 95 TJ, and a fusion (The fusion will be gone next year to be replaced by a summer sports car of some sort), and my KTM dirt bike will be sold/traded in for a dual sport bike. My kids race dirt bikes but I am too old to be beating around the woods on my current KTM 200 2-stroke. It's time for a big slow 4 stroke woods bike.

My first car was a 1962 buick special with a 2 speed auto and a v6. Small drum brakes all around, no power anything, and no seat belts. That was a fun little car in the snow.
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