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Re: Snow. How deep?

My 18" Michelin Latitudes pretty much suck in the snow, even just a thin coating and they loose traction. It's a little better w/ the SNOW setting but I am shocked how bad these tires are in any amount of snow.
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My 18" Michelin Latitudes pretty much suck in the snow, even just a thin coating and they loose traction. It's a little better w/ the SNOW setting but I am shocked how bad these tires are in any amount of snow.
that's because they are all seasons. As soon as the temp drops they loose most of their grip.

"All-season tires do not have cold weather rubber compounds, channelling tread patterns, the large number of tread sipes (tiny slits in the tread blocks) for wet surface control, and the open tread block pattern for deep snow traction that winter tires feature. The lack of a formal "snow" designation on the tire has further fuelled the misconception that "all-season" tires also mean "winter" tires.

On dry pavement, the overall performance of an all-season tire steadily declines as the temperature gets colder. The crossover point is about 5 degrees Celsius. Colder than that, a winter tire outperforms an all-season tire. Winter tire performance sharply improves as temperatures fall from 5 degrees to -30 degrees Celsius, while the all-season tire approaches the "not recommended" status."
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that's because they are all seasons. As soon as the temp drops they loose most of their grip.

Yes, I expected them to suck. But it's not like I had much choice, this is how Jeep choose to equip this vehicle. If the OP has the Laredo X package, he may also have Latitude tires, in which case I would also expect his vehicle to suck in the snow. Most of these comments omit the tire information in response or reference tires the OP clearly does not have.
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Yes, I expected them to suck. But it's not like I had much choice, this is how Jeep choose to equip this vehicle. If the OP has the Laredo X package, he may also have Latitude tires, in which case I would also expect his vehicle to suck in the snow. Most of these comments omit the tire information in response or reference tires the OP clearly does not have.
True. I expected to have to drive in snow, so I bought a set of laredo x wheels and nokian snow tires for winter use.
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True. I expected to have to drive in snow, so I bought a set of laredo x wheels and nokian snow tires for winter use.
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Re: Snow. How deep?

What about AT vs winter tires? I'm looking to get a GC next year. Only had cars so far so AT has never been an option for me. I'd rather not have two sets of wheels/tires to swap out if something better than all-season tires works fine year round.
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What about AT vs winter tires? I'm looking to get a GC next year. Only had cars so far so AT has never been an option for me. I'd rather not have two sets of wheels/tires to swap out if something better than all-season tires works fine year round.
I considered running my ATs in the winter also, but after swapping to dedicated winter tires....i have to admit the winter tires do much better in the wet and cold. I havent visited the snow yet but I assume they will get me around much better than my ATs would. A compromised might be something like the Silent Armors that are Mountain/Snowflake rated ATs.
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My 18" Michelin Latitudes pretty much suck in the snow, even just a thin coating and they loose traction. It's a little better w/ the SNOW setting but I am shocked how bad these tires are in any amount of snow.
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that's because they are all seasons. As soon as the temp drops they loose most of their grip.
With the Latitudes, I don't think that's it's because they're All Seasons, I think it's more like they're barely All Seasons. They label them all season tires, but, IMO, they lean very close to being standard summer touring tires than most other all season tires do. When I first saw them I was like, "those are supposed to be All Season"?

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What about AT vs winter tires? I'm looking to get a GC next year. Only had cars so far so AT has never been an option for me. I'd rather not have two sets of wheels/tires to swap out if something better than all-season tires works fine year round.
I'm the same way. I don't like to bother with two sets of tires; I don't have the storage space.

I've run AT tires on my last two SUVs... Explorer and Liberty. They've always been great in the snow.

I think I usually ran Michelin ATs on my Explorer (which have since been replaced by newer "AT/2" model). They did pretty good.

On my Liberty, I ran Bridgestone Revo tires for most of that vehicles life. They were great in the snow. Did good on ice. Horrible tread life. Extremely noisy.

The last couple years of the Liberty, I ran Firestone Destination AT tires. They were fabulous on both snow and ice. I couldn't have asked for a better "snow" tire. They were a quiet tire in the beginning, but started to get as noisy as the Revos once the tread started to wear down. Better tread life than the Revos, but still not the greatest, but that's one of the trade offs with an AT.

I still have my factory Latitudes on my WK2 and am debating what to do for the winter. (And I'm currently sitting here at work with an expected 6"-8" of snow due to today, so I'm actually a bit nervous about my drive home.)

I've heard good things about the Goodyear Silent Armor's, but they look like overkill for me... I do way too much highway driving to run them year round, I think.

Also thinking about Destination AT's again.

Also looking at Michelin AT/2s. I've heard mixed things about them. They're supposedly pretty good on the highway - low noise, etc. for an AT tire. Some people think they're good in snow. Others think they should be better. I'm thinking they might be good enough for me, and yet still give me good enough summer highway performance. It's all trade offs.
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What brand winter tires? 20 inch?

Nokian winter tires are as good as it gets, bar none!

Right now I'm running these all-season Nokians (P275/55R20) on my OEM polished Summit 20" wheels w/snowflake on the mountain winter rating.

Nokian Rotiiva AT They are excellent!
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I'm the OP and my Laredo has 17" Goodyear Forterra tires.
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