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Re: So...Rechargeable Flashlight + Xtra Storage = No Spare Rim?

Fitting a spare in the well is all about tire width.
I currently have a 255/70/18 stock Wrangler JK Sahara wheel with Bridgestone Dueler tire (32" tire) in my spare wheel well. You have to take the plastic storage bins out to fit the larger diameter tire.
The 255 width does fit in the wheel well. The foam jack holder also fits in the middle (barely). This is due to the slightly shorter offset and backspace from the JK Sahara wheel (~10-12mm). A 255/70/18 tire on a stock WK2 18" wheel would have no issues fitting.
I am not sure if you could fit the 265 width tire. I bet it would be hard to latch the deck cover (but maybe possible).

As for all you guys wanting matching spares.... I am selling my four stock 18" painted aluminum wheels that come with the ORAII package..... I may consider selling them individually if I could sell them all. Any interest? Post here or PM or post in the classified I posted.
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Old 04-06-2011, 07:09 PM
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Re: So...Rechargeable Flashlight + Xtra Storage = No Spare Rim?

my thoughts...

1) I have had matching rims/tires as "spares" in other SUVs (both Range Rovers) and my '98 ZJ. The spare was located inside the ZJ, now it didn't do much good when I lifted the Jeep 9" and had 35s but I had a matching 5th rim from the factory. so, it is possible and does happen.

2) I was hoping to find a matching 5th rim/tire in the compartment of my Wk2. This way if I had a flat I could simply switch out the blown tire until I was ready to buy two new tires - you wanna replace in sets and still have a set of matching rims.

3) The current spare tire, regardless of rim, is not the same size as the road tires, whether 18" or 20". So, it won't do anyone any good for a prolonged period of time. If Chrysler/Jeep didn't want to increase the cost by add a matching 5th rim - fine, I understand that. However, I would at least like the same sized tire OD.

From JayB's posting it looks like a larger OD tire will fit in the compartment with removing the bins. I worry about the tire width though for members you are going up a size or two from the stock 10.43" width...

To the member who said WK2 owners are whining... I don't think we are whining. I think we are questioning some decisions made by Chrysler/Jeep. It would be nice if 1) the rim and tire OD matched and 2) the compartment was a touch bigger. Sure, we can fit a larger tire in but we have to remove the bins - a feature most of us liked when researching and ultimately choosing the Wk2.

To the member who asked where to get a 5th rim, go to trade motion and you and find the factory rims, about 25-30% cheaper than from Mopar.

To the member who said a spare is a spare, get a Wrangler if you want a 5th wheel... what does that even mean? I don't have to be in the woods 4wheelin in order to get a flat. It could happen in my neighborhood on the way to work or on the interstate heading to the beach. If I am rolling with my family to the beach and I get a flat I'd like to be able to install the "spare" and not worry about replacing the tire until I returned home. This speaks more to an issue of the size of tire supplied and not to the rim it is mounted on.

Personally, it won't matter to me in a few weeks as I will be installing a 2.5" lift & 33" tires. A 33" wont fit in the compartment, regardless of the rim, and the 245/60 tire that is in there now won't do me a lick of good should something happen. So, I will just have more storage space - I think it will be a good place for beer

just my $0.02, ok... more like $1.
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Re: So...Rechargeable Flashlight + Xtra Storage = No Spare Rim?

I agree that a spare tires is just that a spare...still no one has mentioned the best part of having a 5th rim.....It is still nice to know if you curbed or scratched a rim that you have one handy to change and then make the damaged rim your spare.
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Old 04-06-2011, 09:31 PM
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Re: So...Rechargeable Flashlight + Xtra Storage = No Spare Rim?


heres something i just read my build sheet sent to me from chrysler and it says full size spare
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Re: So...Rechargeable Flashlight + Xtra Storage = No Spare Rim?

Uhhhh, I'm petty sure the spare tire is the same od. It is only slightly thinner at 245 instead of 265 which is on the stock rubber. The base laredo with 17 inch wheels comes with 245 rubber. Either way, they are all the same od within a few mm. same od for spare and regular tires equals a full size spare. No where did it say a matching 5 th wheel was provided.

I do have stock 18 painted wheels for sale
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Re: So...Rechargeable Flashlight + Xtra Storage = No Spare Rim?

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The '02 Grand Cherokee Limited I traded in absolutely had a full size spare tire mounted on an aluminum rim that matched the four on the ground. Came in very handy when I curbed a rim - just swapped the spare with the dinged one.
I had a 2000 WJ Limited that I bought new. I had the option to order a matching wheel & tire, which I did at extra cost. I sold the WJ a week before my WK2 came in. The buyer got an unused spare wheel & tire!
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Re: So...Rechargeable Flashlight + Xtra Storage = No Spare Rim?

I just checked and the spare IS the same size in diameter.
a 32'' will fit, if you go 33'' just deflate it and bring a small 12v inflator.
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Re: So...Rechargeable Flashlight + Xtra Storage = No Spare Rim?

I guess Jeep just decided to cut costs.

My 2005 WK Limited build sheet states (and I knew this when I made the decision to buy the Jeep):

Code: TBWS Description: Full Size Matching Whl Spare Tire

And I've got the more expensive option of the chrome rims.
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Re: So...Rechargeable Flashlight + Xtra Storage = No Spare Rim?

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Uhhhh, I'm petty sure the spare tire is the same od. It is only slightly thinner at 245 instead of 265 which is on the stock rubber. The base laredo with 17 inch wheels comes with 245 rubber. Either way, they are all the same od within a few mm. same od for spare and regular tires equals a full size spare. No where did it say a matching 5 th wheel was provided.

I do have stock 18 painted wheels for sale

Sorry, but you are wrong. A 245/60R18 is not the same size as a 265/60R18. The numbers represent a ratio to one another, its not as simple as one or two sizes smaller.

See the attached chart...

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heres something i just read my build sheet sent to me from chrysler and it says full size spare
I know, I expected the same size tire, but i guess it is better than a doughnut.
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Re: So...Rechargeable Flashlight + Xtra Storage = No Spare Rim?

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Jeep Grand Cherokees never have. Dont expect them to either.
Not true.....my '02 Overland had a matching spare plus the TPMS also monitored that spare's pressure.
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Re: So...Rechargeable Flashlight + Xtra Storage = No Spare Rim?

My guess is that Jeep starts offering an actual 5th wheel in the future like they have in the past. As most have said the benefits of having it and the incremental cost of the option ($200 max) is worth every penny.
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Re: So...Rechargeable Flashlight + Xtra Storage = No Spare Rim?

Another reason for a matching spare is the "5" tire rotation. For those who say a spare is just that, think about it. If you leave the spare under or in the car for years it becomes rotten and or deflated which makes it useless when needed. With a matching spare you can do a 5 tire rotation, if you have to get to the spare for checking the pressure regularly why not swap it with one on the ground. This will extend tire life and mileage 20% overall and ensure you have a properly maintained and trust worthy spare. I've done this for years with my cars and trucks, even when buying custom wheels I buy 5.

I tow my Jeep behind a motorhome. Finding a 20" tire that matches in bumf*ck egypt during a trip is no fun nor is it cheap. If needed I can install the matching Diameter, width and type of tire and continue my trip. No worries until I return home unless there is more than one tire problem, which is very unlikely. Also this prevents having a new spare with 4 worn tires as a 5 tire rotation keeps wear evenly distributed.

In the 50's through the 70's 5 tire rotation was suggested by all manufacturers. It was fairly easy since most vehicles used hubcaps on steel wheels. This went away with the advent of aluminum or designer wheels from the factory due to the cost of the spare. It's always been a cost cutting measure since something other than a steelie with a hubcap, hense the doughnut spare and uninflated spares of the late 70's and 80's. I thought Jeep had brought this back with the offering of a matching spare wheel and tire in the past several years, looks like the cost effective crew took control again. Thanks Daimler for screwing the jeep line once again during the design phase, and the Gov't for the cost cutting actions during the bankruptcy/sell off.
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