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Re: Still can't decide: Overland or BMW X3

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Wow, corroded at 27K? Any off road use which may explain that?
This thread seems to indicate that our WK2s might also suffer from this:

Should this look so corroded?
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Old 08-27-2013, 01:05 AM
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Crimony! I swear, had I seen the photos in that link before I bought my GC...It would have been a flat out deal breaker. Jeez...I didn't see any credible explanation either. I could see maybe if the vehicles had been driven through tide pools or in the surf, but normal use, or even heavy use should not result in corrosion like that
I would put the Jeep up on a jack and remove a wheel in front of the dealership on a Saturday morning...See if that got some response
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Re: Still can't decide: Overland or BMW X3

When I jumped back in a Jeep I knew this kind of stuff would and will happen. That is why this forum is so great. little grease on there and we will never have a problem. Proactive maintenance.
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Re: Still can't decide: Overland or BMW X3

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I'm not sure where German cars got this reliability reputation from especially when you have Japanese cars to compare them to. It must have come from the '70s and '80s when they were compared to American cars built then but have come a far long way since.
I wouldn't exactly concur with the 70s. Had a 73 Porsche and it was in the shop waaay more times than a 95 ZJ Limited ever was. Nice car... the mechanic even complimented it.
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Re: Still can't decide: Overland or BMW X3

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Besides...We're all pretty much talking Jeeps here...A European manufacturer!
Fiat?

Or the Jeep's suspension? Or transmission?
or the Mexico Hemi?
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Re: Still can't decide: Overland or BMW X3

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I wouldn't exactly concur with the 70s. Had a 73 Porsche and it was in the shop waaay more times than a 95 ZJ Limited ever was. Nice car... the mechanic even complimented it.
I had a 74 BMW 2002 and had the engine rebuilt at 34,000 miles because it was leaving a smokescreen of black smoke going downhill.

Anyone remember the infamous Audi 100LS from the 70s? Rivaled only by the equally infamous Yugo for mechanical failures.
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LOL. Yeah it must have been the '80's because there were some real shockers. Now that I think about it the 70's produced some legends that you still see around today. My parents had a '76 Malibu station wagon that lasted what seemed like a century. Only problem was a bit of rust on the tailgate and tire blow outs when we went on long vacations.
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When I jumped back in a Jeep I knew this kind of stuff would and will happen. That is why this forum is so great. little grease on there and we will never have a problem. Proactive maintenance.
I don't think a little grease would prevent this kind of corrosion...some kind of nasty bi- metal thing going on....I've lived in a lot of regions of America, and haven't seen anything like this since the early '70s Fords, and even then it took road salt to corrode like this
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Re: Still can't decide: Overland or BMW X3

I will be swapping my wheels today for the upcoming road trip to Moab this weekend. I will check how much rust I have on the Jeep and report back.

Also, if I were the OP, I would take the Q5 over X3.

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Re: Still can't decide: Overland or BMW X3

My company landlord has an X6 (I think it is) I think it was over 80 grand.

He has had nothing but problems with it. He goes through tires like crazy.

He saw my new limited and is seriously considering swapping it out. He said his neighbor also has the Jeep and he was very impressed.

Another friend of mine always gets BMW's and nothing but trouble. Wicked expensive to fix. And crazy stuff like 5 years old and doors rotting out on the bottom.

One time she visited and had to put the kids in through the windows. You could tell the kids were so embarrassed.

If I had the extra bucks I would consider the big VW. I own a VW CC and we love it. But the VW is very expensive and not great on gas unless you get the diesel, which is extremely expensive. VW's are not the most reliable either but they have been way better than BMW's.

My last Jeep 2002 GC was one of the best Vehicle experiences I've had. The 2014 GC Limited have now has a lot work ahead of itself to prove itself. So far so good. Only 1K miles.
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Re: Still can't decide: Overland or BMW X3

You might face this problem if you buy a BMW.
BMW Owners Vent Anger at Months-Long Wait for Spare Parts - Bloomberg
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You might face this problem if you buy a BMW.
BMW Owners Vent Anger at Months-Long Wait for Spare Parts - Bloomberg
Isn't that the same source that recently concluded BMW drivers were pretty much the rudest drivers on the roads, thus confirming one of the Autoweek writers claims of similar. Not sure why this is news, as they've been called The Ultimate D*ckhead Machine for decades.

As an automobile though, they seem to be losing their edge in handling feel, and the Audi is In My Non Humble Opinion, a better vehicle and AWD.
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