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Re: Stock 2015 Altitude Tires and Snow

I had stock Forteras on my previous WK for about 3-4 winters and never had an issue getting around in the snow. That was with Quadra-Trac I and stock height suspension.

It really does come down to knowing how to drive in the snow and not driving around like a d*ck thinking your in drifting car or baja race just cause you have 4x4.

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Re: Stock 2015 Altitude Tires and Snow

Some of you are forgetting that winter driving isn't always about your skills and you aren't the only person on the roads. I'd still prefer more suitable tires to give me all the control I need should some other driver not be as skilled as some of you claim to be.
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Some of you are forgetting that winter driving isn't always about your skills and you aren't the only person on the roads. I'd still prefer more suitable tires to give me all the control I need should some other driver not be as skilled as some of you claim to be.
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Some of you are forgetting that winter driving isn't always about your skills and you aren't the only person on the roads. I'd still prefer more suitable tires to give me all the control I need should some other driver not be as skilled as some of you claim to be.
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Re: Stock 2015 Altitude Tires and Snow

Greetings,

When it comes to winter driving, their are many different conditions that we face. As fellow member ANTSJEEP pointed out it is all about your driving skills which to go further on that point comes down to braking, acceleration and steering. Many here are fully aware that a 4x4 is not a license to be a big shot or you know what. Even the best tires for the winter driving can be your enemy if the wrong skill is applied.

As for the OEM tires, as far as I am concern when I had the Michelin Latatitude, I had problems with traction on a plowed surface. The GY Fortera's generally have nice traction in the snow/ice. However, I would not take them into deep stuff unless you know what you are facing.

Their are many threads on the main WK2 sections under suspension/tires/.... that can be searched for tires for a particular application in winter driving.

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Some of you are forgetting that winter driving isn't always about your skills and you aren't the only person on the roads. I'd still prefer more suitable tires to give me all the control I need should some other driver not be as skilled as some of you claim to be.
Greetings,

I can remember driving regular 2 wheel drive cars like the rest of us did back than with tires that were so-so for the winter and had control of the vehicle. When it all boils down to it, your skill is extremely important. And that is how you can take control when the other driver is not and avoid becoming a statistic yourself.

If back than I had tires of today, you still need need skills to deal with those who do not know how to drive. A Jeep might be a tank and safe drive in the winter, however, if you do not know what you are doing it becomes a killer of a tank even with the best tires.

A great trick my father taught me way back than is to going to a shopping area's parking lot while it is snowing or stopped snowing or when they are plowing and just play. Practice your skills and/or brush up.

Ice is ice and it will always be ice.

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Re: Stock 2015 Altitude Tires and Snow

I'm not discounting skill... not at all. I just don't agree with settling for all season tires (or worse, performance tires) and thinking that, as long as you are doing the right thing, so is everyone else. In those situations, I'm more comfortable knowing I have tires that have siping and groves that improve my chances of avoiding a bad situation.

There are some things I'll cheap out on.. but rubbers isn't one of them (pun intended).
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I'm not discounting skill... not at all. I just don't agree with settling for all season tires (or worse, performance tires) and thinking that, as long as you are doing the right thing, so is everyone else. In those situations, I'm more comfortable knowing I have tires that have siping and groves that improve my chances of avoiding a bad situation.

There are some things I'll cheap out on.. but rubbers isn't one of them (pun intended).

Greeting,

Your have valid points that are truly stated.

Skills are the foundation of winter driving. Today, with the combination of skills and the modern tire that is implemented for the winter or is integrated within an all season for winter driving will give you that edge. If you do the math; old school + new school = today's school of driving in the winter.

Never be cheap on the rubber.

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There are some things I'll cheap out on.. but rubbers isn't one of them (pun intended).
Some people have leases. So why would anyone invest that kind of money into a lease?? Unless they plan on buying it out, then that's a different story.

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Some people have leases. So why would anyone invest that kind of money into a lease?? Unless they plan on buying it out, then that's a different story.

Just remember... were not the ones cheaping out, its Jeep
I do wish Jeep would give us tire options. Sometimes you can work it out with the dealer.

But think of it this way... If you trade your OEMs (or sell) and put on a decent set of tires your net cost is probably around $500. That's less than $14 a month if you have the car for 3 years. I rarely keep a vehicle more than 2 years but have no problem justifying the cost. I actually plan on it for every vehicle I buy, including sports cars and motorcycles.

With all the money people spend on mods or accessories, tires really should get the first look, imo.
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Some people have leases. So why would anyone invest that kind of money into a lease?? Unless they plan on buying it out, then that's a different story.
No definite plans to buy mine out of the lease, but I'm hoping to and I still invested in dedicated winter tires. It's not worth it to me to cheap out on them and the difference is night and day between the Forteras performance in the snow. Only my experience though.

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With all the money people spend on mods or accessories, tires really should get the first look, imo.
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