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Re: Stock 2015 Altitude Tires and Snow

My Forteras have done well in mud and snow

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Re: Stock 2015 Altitude Tires and Snow

I live in a suburb of Buffalo, NY that was recently hit with an epic 7'-8' of snow in four days. I have the Forteras and they have been great. I have gone through 2' of snow with no problem. I will buy another set if that helps with any decisions.
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I live in a suburb of Buffalo, NY that was recently hit with an epic 7'-8' of snow in four days. I have the Forteras and they have been great. I have gone through 2' of snow with no problem. I will buy another set if that helps with any decisions.

Thank you for your response on the Forteras! Maybe that will shut some people up


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9 out of 10 people in this forum say they're horrible in the snow and reviews from TireRack show only 5.6 out of 10 people would buy the tire again.

I had my parents Jeep with 3k miles on their Fortera's in 4 inches of snow driving very cautiously (slow) and I was sliding off the road. Some people would call it a good tire in the snow because they got from point A to point B successfully. Not how the tire performed during that trip.

Please don't try to recommend these tires to anyone who lives in an area that gets a decent amount of snow. It's nothing but a highway tire.
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Re: Stock 2015 Altitude Tires and Snow

Saxon 18" SnowBlazers on steel rims on mine. I'm a cop as well. We always run dedicated snow tires on all our vehicles. Being in Canada it's just common sense. I've used just l season tires in winter when I was young and dumb. Now that I dedicated my tires for the season I would never go back.


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Re: Stock 2015 Altitude Tires and Snow

Another Canuck comment,

The tire discussion/debate is simply about math, statistics and probability.

What are the chances you will have an issue driving home tonight ??

Poor road conditions will increase your chance of having an issue (our police officer posters will verify that), good tires will reduce the chance, experience behind the wheel will reduce your chance and speed/inattention (texting etc..) will increase your chances of issues.

There are countless issues that each of us behind the wheel will face in everyday driving. How any of us choose to mitigate the risks is up to their own judgement.

I had Cooper studded snows on my Overland within 2 weeks of its arrival and I run studded snows on every vehicle I own and have for the last 15 years. But I am in a region that sees about 70 of 100 winters days with snow/ice covered roads. So my chances of driving in poor road conditions is increased and I choose to do what I can to mitigate that risk.

Snows are better than all season if its below -7C and particularly if there is reduced traction, experience drivers are better than newbies and an attentive driver is statistically less likely to have issues than a driver texting.

Its about how you identify the risks and how/if you wish to mitigate them.

Buy snows, don't buy them.... its your choice and only you can make the call if there is enough added risk to justify buying them or not....

As far as the stock tires go, I think they're fine for April thru Dec in my neck of the woods, but not for Jan thru March (and I choose to do what I can to reduce that risk).

The best advice so far has been to learn when to stay off the roads.
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Re: Stock 2015 Altitude Tires and Snow

Greetings,

The chemistry of the tire compound is the key to safe winter driving. Plain and simple. Their are many different types of winter conditions from the variety of snow, ice, slush and freezing rain that we face in the different zones (including our friends from Canada) and those who are in and was in law enforcement can testify to that.

If the rubber is hard, less gripping power. If the rubber is soft, better gripping power. The tire compounds are not all the same, it is wide ranging from different tire companies and within the same tire companies. Some companies such as Nitto have introduced softer compounds to their line finally. GY is using more technology from the Dunlop line which they own. Bridgestone has Nokian to rely on, since they own some sort of margin.

Some of us with the Jeeps go from point A to B in the winter. Others here go from point A to point B thru different states and many miles. Some have to face dealing with heavy wet snow on the back roads, especially at night. Therefore, you have to get a tire that is good for your purposes.


Just remember, ice is ice so be careful out their.

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Re: Stock 2015 Altitude Tires and Snow

The stock Forteras where terrible in the snow. Upgraded to Cooper Zeon LTZ and so much better.


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Re: Stock 2015 Altitude Tires and Snow

Greetings,

Cooper Tires has a number of excellent model in their lineup. I do not think they will ever be an OE tire which is sad to say. Some of the Pep Boys tires are made by Cooper.

The Discoverer AT3 was my 2nd choice behind the Nokian Rotiva AT.

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The stock Forteras where terrible in the snow. Upgraded to Cooper Zeon LTZ and so much better.


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I must say that I do like the idea of 285/50/20. Wider profile but same stock height. These will be my new pair of shoes when I need to replace the current ones.


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Re: Stock 2015 Altitude Tires and Snow

Will the stock tires work in the snow? Yes.

Will dedicated snow tire work better? Yes.

Should you make your own best judgement based on the amount of snow that you will be driving in? Yes.

Is this worth arguing about? No.
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Re: Stock 2015 Altitude Tires and Snow

I thought all of you guys knew, disagreeing on the internet isn't allowed. I honestly have yet to read a thread here or elsewhere where one person has an opinion that differs from another's.....and it's ok.......it's never ok. Never going to be okay. Feelings get hurt worse on the Internet these days it seems even over something as simple as tires.

Maybe the two groups should hire lawyers to outlaw the tires they don't like. Whoever has the most lawyers wins. That'll teach those people to stop liking the things they like so much.
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