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Re: Struggling with decision... Overland or Summit

I was planning to get an Overland, but when I bought through the DC group buy, I caved and ended up getting a Summit. I liked the wheels and the front fascia over the Overland and all the tech is pretty nice as well. I am not big into chrome, so I bought a Bright White Summit to minimize the look of the chrome.

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Re: Struggling with decision... Overland or Summit

Maybe it's just me but I saw most of the extras features in the higher models as just fluff. Everything you need could be had in a Laredo or Limited.

I can see the tomatoes coming now but only other model id consider is an SRT8 and I wouldn't make that my daily.
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Re: Struggling with decision... Overland or Summit

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Maybe it's just me but I saw most of the extras features in the higher models as just fluff. Everything you need could be had in a Laredo or Limited.
That's the thing..."need" is very personal. I'd be terribly unhappy in a Laredo or Limited because neither would have the things "I" perceive I "need". There is no "wrong" choice here unless one buys a vehicle that doesn't have what they personally want/"need" for their own reasons.
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Re: Struggling with decision... Overland or Summit

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I've also been trying to decide between a Summit and an Overland.

I really like the more capable look and ORA II features of the Overland. But the added features of the Summit also look very tempting.

I haven't ordered my 2015 yet, but when I do, it'll probably be a Summit.
One thing to keep in mind is that the only off road capability difference between a summit and an ORA II overland is not all that much just the 4 items below. The drive system and suspension (QDII, Quadra lift) are the exact same thing on both of them.

If you do it your self
-OEM skid plates - are about a $450 bolt on to summit
-OEM tow hooks - are about $140 bolt on to summit with a little plastic cutting on grill
-18 inch wheels/latitudes - many dealers would gladly take your 20 inch summit wheels in exchange for some 18s if you really want the 18s
-approach angle - air dam will come off if your doing something hard core enough that this is an issue, though not as easily as overlands

Those four things are the only off road capability differences. Trying to add the summit options on to overland would be difficult and costly.
Summit does have a higher price tag so that is something to consider also. I added the skids and the hooks and kept the 20s and it does everything I want it to.
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Re: Struggling with decision... Overland or Summit

The Summit 3.6 V-6 does not come with QDII.
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Re: Struggling with decision... Overland or Summit

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Maybe it's just me but I saw most of the extras features in the higher models as just fluff. Everything you need could be had in a Laredo or Limited.

I can see the tomatoes coming now but only other model id consider is an SRT8 and I wouldn't make that my daily.
You make a valid point. But, if we went through life only wanting what we need, there are so many things we would do without. A short list of things we don't need, although we convince ourselves they are necessary;

Cell phones, big screen tv, air conditioning, the tablet I'm typing on, etc.

I remember thinking what a waste power windows and seats were. Then I got a car that had them standard ... I wouldn't be without them now. In 1998 I got my first vehicle with auto a/c, how silly. After several vehicles that had it, I bought an '07 Liberty that didn't have it available. It drove me nuts! Yeah, it was a short drive.

So, while I agree with you that we don't need all the extras, I really like having the things I don't need. And, I worked most of my life so I can afford them while still putting food on the table, so why not.


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The Summit 3.6 V-6 does not come with QDII.
Neither does the overland v6, im talking about the v8 or diesel
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Re: Struggling with decision... Overland or Summit

I struggled with this decision too. Ended up going with the Overland for two reasons:

1) the Summit look (front but mostly rear) is too close shape-wise to the Mercedes "cousin" (or third uncle or whatever you want to call it). Plus...I'm just not a fan of the look. This was a minor reason though.

2) I like lighter interiors. The Summit basically only has dark choices. Even the 2015 with the new option is basically black and brown. The headliner is light which is good, but...overall still too dark. I don't like the "cave" look of all dark interiors. I USED to like dark interiors when they were more "exclusive" and were less common. Now it seems every vehicle I see has a contrast-less interior that is pitch black. So, I went with the brown/light frost interior. If they had that on the Summit I would have likely picked that.

It's funny, but I know several people with Summits with black interiors as well as other GCs with that dark interior too. They and others always comment about how mine seems so "open" and feels larger than theirs on the inside. Lots of compliments and one convert for their next vehicle in terms of interior color.
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Re: Struggling with decision... Overland or Summit

I've never been a fan of black interiors but didn't have a choice this time as I bought mine off the showroom floor. With all the lookie-lou's jumping in and out of it, it ended up with a lot of scuff marks... and in places one would not normally expect to find them. Black just makes that crap stand out even more.

For an Overland, I'm really disappointed that Jeep did not cover the lower door panels in carpeting. Everything is cheap exposed plastic. With that speaker bulge in the door it catches a lot of scuffs from shoes.
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If you do a lot of heavy off roading, I definitely can see how the decision would be more difficult.
What a crazy statement. I would NEVER take my Overland on more than grass/dirt/gravel/snow covered roads because I didn't pay all that money just to screw it up needlessly.

Not saying that the 2014 Grand Cherokee isn't capable off the asphalt, but who in their right mind would pay $45,000 - $55,000 on a WK2 unibody vehicle, and go heavy offroading in it?



That's what the Wrangler is for...Unlimited for the four doors.

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I've never been a fan of black interiors but didn't have a choice this time as I bought mine off the showroom floor. With all the lookie-lou's jumping in and out of it, it ended up with a lot of scuff marks... and in places one would not normally expect to find them. Black just makes that crap stand out even more.

For an Overland, I'm really disappointed that Jeep did not cover the lower door panels in carpeting. Everything is cheap exposed plastic. With that speaker bulge in the door it catches a lot of scuffs from shoes.

Agreed. That happens on light interiors too. It's funny how each side of the argument (light vs dark interiors) says the other shows dirt and scuffs more. In my experience they each show them equally--the difference is the color of the scuff and dirt. Black shows lighter color dirt/sand/dust and scuff and lighter shows dark dirt and scuffs
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What a crazy statement.

Who in there right mind would pay $45,000 - $55,000 on a WK2 unibody vehicle, and go heavy offroading in it?



That's what the Wrangler is for...Unlimited for the four doors.


A lot of people buy these vehicles, use them on-road for a few years, THEN start going off-road with them when they've depreciated. Someone wanting a luxury or utility ride right now may very well consider the capability aspect for later on. Not everyone trades out vehicles every few years.
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