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Old 08-12-2015, 11:08 AM
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The peeling part is rather unfortunate and it appears to be a lot more than just random Summit models given that yours is a newer one. The rattles are common (more of a minor nuisance) and mine are fixed due to some helpful suggestions on this forum- do a quick search. I am here to own this Jeep for many years, certainly more than 2-3 and I am sure it will hold up well- but yes, quality can be a concern but not enough to be a major problem. I have a 5 year bumper to bumper extended warranty and most major problems if they do unfortunately occur, may fall within this period. Many have the Maxcare lifetime warranty which is good and will also help relieve most doubts.

However I am also interested about that loud speaker pop since I have experienced that- it appears to be something related to the active noise cancellation system. It's just a quick pop and is quite infrequent. Otherwise the system works fine. Another one care to chime in as to why there is this popping sound?
Maxcare will not cover the repair of the fender flares falling off it only covers mechanical/electrical, the 3/36 will cover it but after that its on our nickel.

Did yoy say you had a 5 year bumper to bumper? Is that a mopar service contract? I have not seen that one? Is it truely bumper to bumper?

Im going to keep trying to teattach mine im not letting anyone do any repaint

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Old 08-12-2015, 12:28 PM
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Re: Summit owners, front wheel well body cladding holding up?

Come on folks. ...quit being pansies. These are easy to fix even if youre out of warranty. It is the simple 3m double sided automotive vhp tape from any auto parts store. It has the red tape backing. Costs about $5 for a lot of tape. New flares are not needed. Just replace the tape and clean the surface really good. Let them set in the sun for a couple hours. This is probably why some see failures....it didnt have time to "set" and got moisture under it. If you heat it up when new and hold it down for a.few minutes under pressure...it will be fine. Tape it down overnight with painters tape. The 3m vhp tape was just featured on modern marvels here locally as one of the strongest items on earth. These plastic flares are nothing for it to hold. Its used in more manufacturing and construction processes than you know.
So...if you wanna fix it right...remove the old tape...clean area with alcohol and attach tape...clean area where its to be stuck with alcohol as well. Stick it down and hit it with heat from a hairdryer or set in the sun. It will NEVER come.off!
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Re: Summit owners, front wheel well body cladding holding up?

My problem has been more the molded clip not staying in place at the front of the front flares, not the tape failing. Haven't come up with a solution other than just continuously popping it back in. Probably will have the dealer address it eventually.

Kind of have to agree that the tape failing seems pretty weird, body molding tape in general is used on a lot of vehicles and it's incredibly strong.
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Old 08-12-2015, 07:26 PM
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Re: Summit owners, front wheel well body cladding holding up?

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Maxcare will not cover the repair of the fender flares falling off it only covers mechanical/electrical, the 3/36 will cover it but after that its on our nickel.

Did yoy say you had a 5 year bumper to bumper? Is that a mopar service contract? I have not seen that one? Is it truely bumper to bumper?

Im going to keep trying to teattach mine im not letting anyone do any repaint
Yes-you are correct- any bumper to bumper warranty will cover it as the name suggests. Forgot to mention that I purchased this vehicle brand new north of the border so things are slightly different there. In my case there is such a thing as 5-7 year extended bumper to bumper warranty options (gold star and gold star plus) from Chrysler for all brand new vehicles. I also have a 10 year exterior and interior defect warranty which covers things such as paint imperfections in all painted parts (fenders, etc) and leather upholstery defects etc. This peeling off might fall under that category as well. The Maxcare lifetime warranty is still much better if I had a choice.

The job is not difficult as Scott pointed out and no repaint is necessary. Just be patient- and align everything correctly. It is funny that I have to even resort to some DIY work to fix minor problems on a brand new car! This shouldn't be happening at all.
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Re: Summit owners, front wheel well body cladding holding up?

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Come on folks. ...quit being pansies. These are easy to fix even if youre out of warranty. It is the simple 3m double sided automotive vhp tape from any auto parts store. It has the red tape backing. Costs about $5 for a lot of tape. New flares are not needed. Just replace the tape and clean the surface really good. Let them set in the sun for a couple hours. This is probably why some see failures....it didnt have time to "set" and got moisture under it. If you heat it up when new and hold it down for a.few minutes under pressure...it will be fine. Tape it down overnight with painters tape. The 3m vhp tape was just featured on modern marvels here locally as one of the strongest items on earth. These plastic flares are nothing for it to hold. Its used in more manufacturing and construction processes than you know.
So...if you wanna fix it right...remove the old tape...clean area with alcohol and attach tape...clean area where its to be stuck with alcohol as well. Stick it down and hit it with heat from a hairdryer or set in the sun. It will NEVER come.off!
Good suggestions. However no one is being a pansy since many of these vehicles are experiencing this problem almost right from the factory- within weeks, and months. This should not be happening at all especially for the top of the line JGC non-SRT model. If this is more common after a few years, then some might not feel this way- but not within a year. These are not isolated random cases.

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Re: Summit owners, front wheel well body cladding holding up?

Yes..its an easy fix that my wife could do...so quit being pansies. When i got jnto jeeps years ago i wouldve never dreamed they'd be a bunch of cry babies. I guess its a different crowd now....
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You mean these.. I hear you
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Good suggestions. However no one is being a pansy since many of these vehicles are experiencing this problem almost right from the factory- within weeks, and months. This should not be happening at all especially for the top of the line JGC non-SRT model. If this is more common after a few years, then some might not feel this way- but not within a year. These are not isolated random cases.

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Agree its not a matter of how easy it may be to fix it, its more a concern that its something that should not happen to new cars less than a year old. If my fender flares were poping off at 7 years old, ok the cars aging i will fix it. Crazy thing to me is whatever the issue they still have not corrected it after 2.5 years just like v6 trans. Though if i had one of those later model v6 trans that wasnt shifting right id be alot more upset about that than some flares poping lol
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Re: Summit owners, front wheel well body cladding holding up?

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Yes..its an easy fix that my wife could do...so quit being pansies. When i got jnto jeeps years ago i wouldve never dreamed they'd be a bunch of cry babies. I guess its a different crowd now....
I don't get why you think a 50 K plus vehicle . Should have cladding that has become detached in the first year. As okay, anymore than a water pump going out at 25 K miles in a 5.7 Hemi. Or a trans that needs flashing, or the U connect not working as designed. All of these thing going bad early and often makes owners Pansies ?
Who knew? But you are right about one thing. It is a different crowd.
I know fixing the tape is a small stuff, but uncalled for.
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Re: Summit owners, front wheel well body cladding holding up?

Because its a fix that anyone with a brain or half a man could remedy very easily and quickly. Instead we are a culture now that loves to piss and moan to someone else when things arent perfect. "Im better than you.....you lowly mechanic....now fix my jeep right now!"
It definetely is a different crowd and the reason i dont even enjoy my own forum anymore. JeepGarage has turned into the jeep(lets piss and moan like teenage girls) garage.org.
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Re: Summit owners, front wheel well body cladding holding up?

At least for me it's not that I'm incapable of fixing the problem (I've built race engines and transmissions in bygone days...body molding doesn't really intimidate me), it's that it is kind of sad that this has been a recurring problem for a long time they haven't cared to even try making a change to fix from the factory.

Also if I buy a brand new car I'm not expecting to have to use a lot of my (extremely limited in my career) free time either fixing trivial shit (instead of modding for fun), or taking it to the dealer for fixes/recalls.

There aren't tons of people that would rather spend their money and time fixing a car in warranty vs. taking it to the dealer. Frankly the only reason I tend to avoid the dealer is that I trust myself to do better work...just sucks that that means any cost burden for the repair also falls on my wallet, making it even more annoying that they can't get it right in the first place.

Also, I can pretty much guarantee if this wasn't such a resource for troubleshooting (because of "whiners" complaining about issues), there would be a lot less traffic, and a lot less revenue for you.

Just my 2 cents...I've found this forum a great resource for finding fixes to issues that I could implement myself instead of running to the dealer. I wouldn't want to risk being a pansy...
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Summit owners, front wheel well body cladding holding up?

There is a tiny gap on mine. It's fine for now, but I suspect in time I'll have to remove and re-adhere mine before they open up too bad. Not difficult, even Scott's wife can do it. But it's not something I was expecting on a $55k Jeep, or ANY new vehicle for any price. I am, however, one of those guys who would rather spend my own time and money repairing a vehicle in warranty myself because I trust my work and attention to detail over the dealership.

Exterior trim should fit flush from the factory. I'm not going to deter my friends who want to buy a GC from buying one after seeing how awesome mine is, and I still love my Jeep, but the quality control has a long way to go.
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