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Old 08-11-2015, 08:06 AM
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Summit owners, front wheel well body cladding holding up?

I ask because I've seen two newer Summit's parked. Both vehicles with the 3M tape detaching at the upper front. This wheel well body cladding is gapped to the fender on both sides. I should have snapped a picture but did not.
Is this a known problem? Or am I seeing this only in the salt belt of MI.
I'm asking because I'm ready to order a MY16 Summit. Quality fit and finish issues are of great concern to me.
I spent 15 years in the auto world doing Quality Assessment. Fit and finish, squeak and rattle, and driveability . I know a perfect vehicle does not exist. There is always something to find. You have to stand back sometimes and say , "This is a good vehicle".

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Old 08-11-2015, 08:45 AM
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Re: Summit owners, front wheel well body cladding holding up?

I know this problem effected a lot of SRT's as well as Summits. Not sure if it was an early built issue or not though. For what it's worth I have a late built 2014 Summit now with 3,000 miles and they are attached perfectly. Obviously it hasn't even seen a winter yet, but so far so good.
My friend at work has an early built 2014 Summit with 23,000 miles and both sides are peeling out a little at the front of the flares.
I'm pretty sure there is a TSB on this. I wouldn't get too bent out of shape on this though as all it is is just a adhesive or double sided tape issue. Yeah it's annoying but wouldn't be too difficult to fix and certainly wouldn't be a reason for me to avoid a specific vehicle entirely. If it's that big of a deal you will have to go with Overland or lower package that has the different flares.
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Re: Summit owners, front wheel well body cladding holding up?

Mine are slightly separated front and rear. Is there really a TSB? Need to find that and get mine fixed, it always bothers me.
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Old 08-11-2015, 02:56 PM
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Re: Summit owners, front wheel well body cladding holding up?

Mine is just fine- not an issue at all- 2015 model built last September. I have to admit it seems a little flimsy- a price to pay for the cosmetics of the Summit trim. It should hold up well as I drove mine through this past winter.
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Re: Summit owners, front wheel well body cladding holding up?

Hi,
Same problem here in Belguim.
My Summit is 1 year old and both side are coming loose.
The already put some glue on it but it still comes loose.
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Re: Summit owners, front wheel well body cladding holding up?

I know for a fact that one of the Summits I looked at was on the Dealers lot. When I brought up the issue. The sales person was not helpful at all. They would ask about ?
It might be the vendor that supply's the cladding that is at fault. But it could be the fenders are not clean before they pull the backing off the 3M tape to apply it. Either way they are failing and it is unacceptable. If there is a there is a TSB out there. What are they doing that changes the outcome from the Assembly process? I would like to know ? I do know this, once the tape fails it's toast. There is no repair or a restick that lasts every long.
It is kind of strange that the other name plates and logos seem to stay in place on all cars. For the life of the vehicle. Is it not the same 3M backing tape?
Or has FCA group gone to a pasta base glue. Throw it against the fender,and see if it sticks .
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Re: Summit owners, front wheel well body cladding holding up?

They have been rolling off the line for the last 2.5 years with this issue. My 2014(march 2013 build) has it and I fixed a few of the lift points and I know later model 15s have it also. a very poor decision on what to use to hold the flares in place, I don't think they care though they probably figured most would hold until the 3/36 was up and then it becomes the owners problem.
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Re: Summit owners, front wheel well body cladding holding up?

I just went in the garage to check it- you guys got me paranoid. Fortunately no problem here. I have used 3M adhesives before on custom interior overlays and it's hard to imagine that is what's holding these pieces together.
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Re: Summit owners, front wheel well body cladding holding up?

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I just went in the garage to check it- you guys got me paranoid. Fortunately no problem here. I have used 3M adhesives before on custom interior overlays and it's hard to imagine that is what's holding these pieces together.
unfortunately it is, 3m does make some good adhesives this is just not a good use of them. and its not that its just separating, the tape is disintegrating in the center and splitting in spots. if this is what it is doing at 2.5 years can yo imaging 5 or 7 years, definitely not designed for the long term. my biggest concern is that one of those felt strips at the car wash is going to snag it and rip the whole thing off one day.
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Re: Summit owners, front wheel well body cladding holding up?

I'm not sure I understand when it is said that it's not repairable...couldn't they always just completely replace the fender flare with a new or freshly painted one and suitable adhesive? I mean it might only last a few years but for those of us with lifetime warranties it might just be something they have to keep doing.
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Re: Summit owners, front wheel well body cladding holding up?

2015 Summit here and mine separated on the drivers side shortly after taking delivery. Fortunately I just applied some pressure to it and it's been fine since.

I have about 3 other issues with rattles (2 interior) and 1 popping/crunching noise in the suspension when turning. All are intermittent, impossible for the dealer to replicate while they have it.

Also, completely random, but sometimes when I open the door after the car has been parked for awhile (overnight, during work, etc.), there is a loud pop over the speakers like its discharging some static electricity. Annoys the crap out of me because it's not reproducible at will and I bet it's a loose connection somewhere.

If quality is your thing I can't recommend this vehicle, especially for the long term. If you keep your vehicles about 3 years and then let them become someone else's problem, then it's hard to beat the features / price of the GC.


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2015 Summit here and mine separated on the drivers side shortly after taking delivery. Fortunately I just applied some pressure to it and it's been fine since.

I have about 3 other issues with rattles (2 interior) and 1 popping/crunching noise in the suspension when turning. All are intermittent, impossible for the dealer to replicate while they have it.

Also, completely random, but sometimes when I open the door after the car has been parked for awhile (overnight, during work, etc.), there is a loud pop over the speakers like its discharging some static electricity. Annoys the crap out of me because it's not reproducible at will and I bet it's a loose connection somewhere.

If quality is your thing I can't recommend this vehicle, especially for the long term. If you keep your vehicles about 3 years and then let them become someone else's problem, then it's hard to beat the features / price of the GC.


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The peeling part is rather unfortunate and it appears to be a lot more than just random Summit models given that yours is a newer one. The rattles are common (more of a minor nuisance) and mine are fixed due to some helpful suggestions on this forum- do a quick search. I am here to own this Jeep for many years, certainly more than 2-3 and I am sure it will hold up well- but yes, quality can be a concern but not enough to be a major problem. I have a 5 year bumper to bumper extended warranty and most major problems if they do unfortunately occur, may fall within this period. Many have the Maxcare lifetime warranty which is good and will also help relieve most doubts.

However I am also interested about that loud speaker pop since I have experienced that- it appears to be something related to the active noise cancellation system. It's just a quick pop and is quite infrequent. Otherwise the system works fine. Another one care to chime in as to why there is this popping sound?
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