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Re: Sure glad I traded for the Hemi

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OK so they mix ethyl, which is about 100 octane, with regular. Here the wholesalers delver two grades, 87 and 91, both have 10% ethyl, and for 89 the two grades gets mixed at the pump.
x2, all grades here have the "may contain up to 10% ethanol" sticker on them.

The Hemi does run fine on 87 also. I put 89 in when I fill it up and my wife puts 87 in it. I never noticed a difference.
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Re: Sure glad I traded for the Hemi

I didn't test drive the HEMI although I'm sure it rocks. My previous '96 ZJ had the 5.2L V8 and that had some power. I've just got the 3.6L V6. It's nice, smooth, and quiet. Definitely doesn't pickup like that 5.2, but I think I'll be OK. Maybe next Jeep.

So question, is there any way to know if my "new to me" WK2 has had the performance TSBs done? If not, which one(s) should I inquire the dealer about? It's build date was October 2010, and it has 29,000-some miles.
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Re: Sure glad I traded for the Hemi

A dealer can look up the VIN and find out its entire maintenance record of those performed by a chrysler dealer. You used to be able to do this by signing up at the Jeep owner page (jeep.com) and enter the VIN.
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Re: Sure glad I traded for the Hemi

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Nah, spent less than 41, and saving another G every year pays for the fuel to heat my second home in the mountains. I don't have to 'wind it out' as you described to get up there either. Maybe the hills around Pittsburgh are higher that the we have in North Carolina and Tennessee, the 13 highest peaks east of the Mississippi. Or maybe you're just not being honest.
I just did a drive over the coastal mountain range in Oregon. These are mountain passes and not hills. The V6 had plently of guts. Passed a car uphill on a two lane section in the passing zone. When I pulled out and stepped on it, the GC quickly accelerated from 60 to 80. I actually was surprised at how quick it accelerated from 60. No issues passing cars all day without feeling the V6 was winding out or not having enough power. Only issue came when two rice burner cars with punks refused to move to the right in a passing zone. First time they accelerated to 80 as I tried to get by them on ythe right. 2nd time I just accelerated quicker and blew by them on the right. This was uphill.

I came from a Hemi Magnum so I know what Hemi power feels like. Also averaged 23 mpg. If gas was cheaper, I might a sprung for the Hemi, but with the $1000 year in gas savings, at my age I'll take the money IMHO the V6 has plenty of performance even when driving mountain passes. Of course I could had bought a KIA also but I had to draw the line someplace.
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I just did a drive over the coastal mountain range in Oregon. These are mountain passes and not hills. The V6 had plently of guts. Passed a car uphill on a two lane section in the passing zone. When I pulled out and stepped on it, the GC quickly accelerated from 60 to 80. I actually was surprised at how quick it accelerated from 60. No issues passing cars all day without feeling the V6 was winding out or not having enough power. Only issue came when two rice burner cars with punks refused to move to the right in a passing zone. First time they accelerated to 80 as I tried to get by them on ythe right. 2nd time I just accelerated quicker and blew by them on the right. This was uphill.

I came from a Hemi Magnum so I know what Hemi power feels like. Also averaged 23 mpg. If gas was cheaper, I might a sprung for the Hemi, but with the $1000 year in gas savings, at my age I'll take the money IMHO the V6 has plenty of performance even when driving mountain passes. Of course I could had bought a KIA also but I had to draw the line someplace.
That's awesome. I drive the mountains here in North Carolina a lot, and get great drive-ability and passing performance from the V6. And the gas savings basically pays for the interest on my loan.
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Re: Sure glad I traded for the Hemi

Since Decmeber I have now had both. The Pentastar was a good engine, for the traffic I drive in it just bogged down in certain situations and would not get up to speed.

The Hemi has been nice, but it just doesn't have the awesome power you might expect, but it peforms better in the traffic I drive in.

What kills me in the other thread, people are so emotional about the choice other posters didn't make. Why do they try and put so effort in convincing them they were wrong?
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What kills me in the other thread, people are so emotional about the choice other posters didn't make. Why do they try and put so effort in convincing them they were wrong?
Good question. But what I can't stand is the attitude that since you didn't buy the more expensive option, or are saving money on gas, that you made these choices 'because you couldn't afford' the other route.

Back in '98 I bought a Mustang GT. I make a good living and the salesman said that I should have bought the Cobra. The Mustang I have now is a V6, and some say that it's not a real Mustang because it's not a V8. Yet in only has 15HP less than the 98 GT, so obviously these numb skulls don't have a clue what a real Mustang is.

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Re: Sure glad I traded for the Hemi

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Good question. But what I can't stand is the attitude that since you didn't buy the more expensive option, or are saving money on gas, that you made these choices 'because you couldn't afford' the other route.

Back in '98 I bought a Mustang GT. I make a good living and the salesman said that I should have bought the Cobra. The Mustang I have now is a V6, and some say that it's not a real Mustang because it's not a V8. Yet in only has 15HP less than the 98 GT, so obviously these numb skulls don't have a clue what a real Mustang is.

I buy what I want not what I can afford.
I think most of the posters made a decision based on their use and a tradeoff between the extra cost of the V8. Neither is wrong just as a went for an Overland but didn't buy the Summit or the Limited/X. My post was based on climing steep grades and passing on those grades with the V6. Only my opinion, but thought the V6 was more than adequate and even surprised me with it's acceleration.

For me I think the ACC and the blind spot options I take in a heartbeat over the V8 if I had to choose between the two and had limited funds. Yes, the V8 has better preformance, but the V6 is no slouch and I'd rather save those monies to buy something else. Of course I also had bought a KIA
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Re: Sure glad I traded for the Hemi

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Back in '98 I bought a Mustang GT. I make a good living and the salesman said that I should have bought the Cobra. The Mustang I have now is a V6, and some say that it's not a real Mustang because it's not a V8. Yet in only has 15HP less than the 98 GT, so obviously these numb skulls don't have a clue what a real Mustang is.

I buy what I want not what I can afford.
Not to be an ass or anything, but a V6 Mustang IMO is not a real Mustang. Im not a Mustang owner (im a Corvette guy), but what fun is a V6 Mustang? I dunno, I know its all personal opinion, but I just dont see the point of V6 Camaros or Mustangs. Never did.
And for what its worth, how can you compare a newer V6 mustang power to an old 98 Mustang GT? Those old things had like 215 hp lol.


As far as the V6 vs V8 in the Grand Cherokee arguement. People can argue over that all day long. The fact of the matter is, neither of them are fast by any means. The V8 is a LITTLE quicker, but would be a better offroader or and have better towing capabilities. For those that use their Jeep as a normal vehicle then IMO the V6 is superior. Its cheaper, runs on 87, weighs less, and gets a little better fuel economy. If extra power for towing or whatever is required then the V8 would be superior.
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Not to be an ass or anything, but a V6 Mustang IMO is not a real Mustang. Im not a Mustang owner (im a Corvette guy), but what fun is a V6 Mustang? I dunno, I know its all personal opinion, but I just dont see the point of V6 Camaros or Mustangs. Never did.
And for what its worth, how can you compare a newer V6 mustang power to an old 98 Mustang GT? Those old things had like 215 hp lol.
I guess the '71-'82 small block Corvettes were not real Corvettes either.

Actually the '98 GT had 225. It was more than adequate to smoke the tires, chirp into third gear or do donuts in the parking lot. 15 less is more than adequate for hooking up the rear end out of a fast turn. I'm not into illegal street racing and stunt driving, so its a nice looking car that's fun to drive and also gets great gas mileage.

The only problem I had with my 05 was the suspension. $300 and a Saturday later I had new take-offs from a GT: problem solved.
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