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Are all synthetics truly and fully synthetic. I read once that there is only 2 synthetics oil out there that is fully synth.
You are opening Pandora's Box, my friend
Base stock groups used for oil:

Group I and II - these are mineral oils derived from crude oil
Group III - this is a highly refined mineral oil made through a process called hydrocracking. In North America this group is considered a synthetic oil, for marketing purposes.
Group IV - these are true synthetic oils, known as Polyalphaolefin (PAO).
Group V - these are synthetic stocks other than PAO's and include esters and other compounds.

So to answer your question- no, in North America "Synthetic" oil is not always Synthetic.
I won't go starting a debate here by naming oils, but there are a few that are truly synthetic in NA. You can't buy them for $5 a quart though. I've seen those "Synthetic" oils at the store. Mostly, you get what you pay for.

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You are opening Pandora's Box, my friend
Base stock groups used for oil:

Group I and II - these are mineral oils derived from crude oil
Group III - this is a highly refined mineral oil made through a process called hydrocracking. In North America this group is considered a synthetic oil, for marketing purposes.
Group IV - these are true synthetic oils, known as Polyalphaolefin (PAO).
Group V - these are synthetic stocks other than PAO's and include esters and other compounds.

So to answer your question- no, in North America "Synthetic" oil is not always Synthetic.
I won't go starting a debate here by naming oils, but there are a few that are truly synthetic in NA. You can't buy them for $5 a quart though. I've seen those "Synthetic" oils at the store. Mostly, you get what you pay for.
I personally think you just took his bait but still appreciate your answer

BTW, I use the "best" synthetic oil
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Re: Synthetic oil?

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I personally think you just took his bait but still appreciate your answer

BTW, I use the "best" synthetic oil
Is that a brand "best" lol or are you going to say what you use??? I use Amsoil...
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Is that a brand "best" lol or are you going to say what you use??? I use Amsoil...
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Re: Synthetic oil?

Cool... I've been using it for 12 years.
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Cool... I've been using it for 12 years.
If Amsoil or K&N make an oil/grease/pre-mix/filter product for my cars, motorcycles or small engines they r in em.
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I always use the best (priced)
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Re: Synthetic oil?

I just changed mine at 6k and put in some Amsoil Signature Series in mine, all I'll use in my stuff. It's certainly not cheap, but I only change my oil once a year, really cheap insurance IMO. I've been using Amsoil for roughly 8-9 years now.
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Re: Synthetic oil?

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I personally think you just took his bait but still appreciate your answer

BTW, I use the "best" synthetic oil
"How" do you know what group the oil is in? I looked up the data sheet on Amzoil and I don't see anything about groups?

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"How" do you know what group the oil is in? I looked up the data sheet on Amzoil and I don't see anything about groups?

thanks!
My "best" was tongue in cheek as its all opinion and preference (if you ignore the science). Ya, it's a secret with them. Actually, Amsoil uses different base stocks for different applications.
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I always use the best (priced)
I'm surprised you paid the extra for a funnel... lol
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Re: Synthetic oil?

Found this in the Diesel supplement..

"Only use ACEA C3 SAE 5W-30 Synthetic Low Ash engine
oil meeting Chrysler material standard MS-11106 or
Pennzoil Ultra Euro L full synthetic 5W-30 motor oil,
which is recommended for all operating temperatures."

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