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Re: test drive v6

I ordered the hemi and test drove both.....the V6 is a fine motor and for most users will perfectly fit their needs.
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Old 10-28-2010, 10:23 AM
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Re: test drive v6

I drove both and was extremely impressed by the Pentastar. It is way more capable than the piglike V6 from my prior '06 Touareg.

All that said, the cromagnon in me just had to have the Hemi. Err, I mean, high altitude, deep snow, towing needs, and the ass-o-dyno-meter required the 5.7L.

YMMV. Literally.
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Re: test drive v6

I took the Hemi after originally wanting the V6.
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Old 10-28-2010, 12:46 PM
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Re: test drive v6

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I took the Hemi after originally wanting the V6.
Sadly, I think that will be the case for me too. I wanted to save the money both in the initial outlay, fuel costs and additional costs of things like Magnaflow exhaust. Standard of comparison was 2008 Hemi WK. Test drive was just to compare the two engines in the WK2 before ordering and included accelerating up a steepish hill, 45-65 throttle roll ons, etc.

The six was the first test ride, and really seemed pretty reasonable compared to the 08 Hemi (330HP) although it was pretty busy and frequently down shifting to meet thottle/grade/speed demands. I was not calling for WOT but generally in the 60-75% throttle demand range. Slow and steadyish.

Then, unfortunately, I test drove the 5.7 with the improved, (compared to '08), HP and torque. Effortless acceleration, reserve power and overall far more smile worthy in this heavy vehicle.

When it comes time to write the check(s), the test ride will have been an expensive one for me.
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Re: test drive v6

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Sadly, I think that will be the case for me too. I wanted to save the money both in the initial outlay, fuel costs and additional costs of things like Magnaflow exhaust. Standard of comparison was 2008 Hemi WK. Test drive was just to compare the two engines in the WK2 before ordering and included accelerating up a steepish hill, 45-65 throttle roll ons, etc.

The six was the first test ride, and really seemed pretty reasonable compared to the 08 Hemi (330HP) although it was pretty busy and frequently down shifting to meet thottle/grade/speed demands. I was not calling for WOT but generally in the 60-75% throttle demand range. Slow and steadyish.

Then, unfortunately, I test drove the 5.7 with the improved, (compared to '08), HP and torque. Effortless acceleration, reserve power and overall far more smile worthy in this heavy vehicle.

When it comes time to write the check(s), the test ride will have been an expensive one for me.
About the same for me....the 2nd test drive was the V8...it was just, like you said effortless and overall just made the GC more fun to drive.
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What's really sad is that these 10 year old parts bin Mercedes 5-speeds are choking the hell out of both GC engines. The gear ratios in 1st, 2ond, and 3rd are similar to the old 1980's 3 speed automatics. Chrysler/Jeep better get on the ball because the word is starting to spread.
I agree with Walterhudson regarding the old technology. I love my 2004 Overland even is 10years old model but for something re-designed with tag 2011 model should be more like 2011 when comes to powertrain. All other technologies are up to date but I am planning on driving it more often then looking "my pictures" on the nav screen. I even think that the new 3.6 motor is some sort of outdated. For example new Audi Q7 comes with 3.0 turbo with 272hp, 8speed transmission, gets 16/22mpg, has gross weght 7,000lb (vs 6,500lb on the Jeep), can tow 5,500lb (on the 3.0T!). This vehicle moves better than the Jeep, has 3rd row, has full time all wheel drive - quattro system and starting MSRP is $45,700 with invoice $42,500. Again Jeep is #1 in my short list but I think Germans are making cars that are trully 2011.
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Old 10-28-2010, 09:56 PM
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For example new Audi Q7 comes with 3.0 turbo with 272hp, 8speed transmission, gets 16/22mpg, has gross weght 7,000lb (vs 6,500lb on the Jeep), can tow 5,500lb (on the 3.0T!). This vehicle moves better than the Jeep, has 3rd row, has full time all wheel drive - quattro system and starting MSRP is $45,700 with invoice $42,500.
And how much does it cost when outfitted similarly to a Grand Cherokee Overland? I wouldn't be surprised if it's over $5K more expensive. I did price a Lexus RX alongside an Overland- to get one with the same features, you're at $47500 and climbing awfully fast.
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Prices mentioned are "starting". When you add different options will get close to $60K.This is why Overland is #1 in my list. But Q7 is larger 7 passenger vehicle that looks really nice. We had to test it because wife likes it. My point was that they are able to make this thing move with 3.0T motor. Turbo and the trany make big difference.
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Re: test drive v6

On my test drives, both the Hemi and Pentastar were a let down off the line. Compared to my WJ 4.7HO with 3.73 gearing (and much less weight), both versions felt a major step backwards. Once up and going, the hemi had plenty of power, the V6 was adequate but not special. Sadly, the Grand isn't the SUV stop light terror it used to be.
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LOL @ "stop light terror", very well put.
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Tall gearing + beaucoup added weight = stop light tortoise.
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On my test drives, both the Hemi and Pentastar were a let down off the line. Compared to my WJ 4.7HO with 3.73 gearing (and much less weight), both versions felt a major step backwards. Once up and going, the hemi had plenty of power, the V6 was adequate but not special. Sadly, the Grand isn't the SUV stop light terror it used to be.
Don't get me wrong , I think the GC is ,by far, the best value for the money. However, I'm just disappointed that even a totally new V6 comes to market already somewhat out dated. Why no direct injection? Why no turbocharger?
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